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Perfectly stated.

Amen!

Travis, Please don't count me as one. The only gun control I look for is dead center hits!

"The fatal flaw with your proposal is just how FedGov will define "mental illness". You know that it will be a slippery slope surely exploited by the communists to include seeing a psychologist/psychiatrist/family counselor for ANY reason. Your wife has post-partum depression? Lifetime BAN on gun ownership to include NO guns in her house. I'm not exaggerating because "they" always go to any length to deny gun ownership."

That schidt is already happening in Kommifornia and a couple of other places.

Myron

I will accept you as my brother.



Travis

I agree. Violent felons should be kept behind bars with no chance of parole.

I kind of liked Karl Rove's comment the other night. You want gun control? Fine, repeal the 2nd Amendment. It's that simple.

Anything else is flummery. Manchin and Toomey have a lot of the fruity custard between their ears, if they think it will get traction.

Anyone want the 2A repealed? Quick show of hands? No? Dang. Guess we don't really want gun control do we?

I remember a cocktail hour about 20 years ago with some DOJ lizard on vacation up in Wisconsin. He spent the first drink telling me how gun control was an experiment we had to go through if we were going to evolve as a nation. I spent most of the second drink explaining why I thought he was a vacuous fascist that had been living inside the Beltway too long.

If they are deemed safe enough to walk amongst us in society, they should be deemed safe enough to have the same Constitutional rights as everyone else.

Any argument to the contrary is an indictment of either the justice system, or the mental health profession. Not our 2nd Amendment.


I cannot agree. The law is very clear that, if you commit a dangerous felony (actually, I believe that federal law says any felony, but for sake of discussion I'm limiting this position to dangerous felonies), you forfeit your rights to: 1. freedom (due to incarceration), 2. voting, and 3. owning a gun. The bad guys know this before they commit the crime, and I have no problem with having them lose a right they knew they were going to lose if they did the bad act. It's their free choice, so they bear the sanction. Look at the recidivism rates - no one would seriously suggest that a dangerous felon is not more likely than Joe Average to commit another violent crime.

"Those who sacrifice freedom for safety deserve neither." — Thomas Jefferson

Simple.

Munchkin/Screwme are back? Say it isn't so.

When you fellas discuss pending Federal gun legislation you give credence to the anti-Second Amendment crowd and their position. We should be demanding they show us where they get their authority to promote their un-constitutional agenda.

There is a mechanism to amend the Constitution. Until that is done or The Second Amendment is repealed, these politicians have not the authority. Unless you do not think that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

Am I to believe that there is anyone here that thinks we should have to ask the Federal Government to allow us to have the kinds of firearms necessary to overthrow said government if it gets too froggy? If not then why allow the discussion? If so, at some point they will regulate the hardness of our snowballs and the range of our slingshots.

Carry on.

The question was what do I believe.

I believe that if a man is deemed safe enough to be in society he should have all his rights restored. Any argument to the contrary is an indictment of the justice system. Not the 2nd Amendment.

Your stance gives credence to the theory that gun control is an effective means of reducing crime.



Travis

Ok Dr. Freedom. We'll stop discussing gun control right away.

Anything else you don't want us to talk about?



Travis

If a criminal wants to kill someone and cannot find a gun he will just use something else. Gun control is just a liberal feel good farce.

It's been my observation that the mentally ill basically contaminate and destroy their own family first. Unfortunately the best a family member can commit to a mental health facility is 3 days and then the affected family member is back out. This time they are pissed off mom and dad had me committed.

The bottom line is the best people to do something about a mentally ill person is family and there is no where to get a long term committal that is effective and will hold the person until some relief can be had or the medicine becomes effective. Once the person is out of a 3 day lockup, they are usually not ready to admit they have a problem and will continue with their meds and give recovery a serious attempt.

The end results are the mentally ill and society don't stand a chance to protect themselves until the person commits a crime and is locked up for longer than 3 days. Unfortunately, it will take another look by the SCOTUS at O'Conner vs Donaldson to see if America can get some relief from a very poorly thought out decision.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Connor_v._Donaldson

Traitors exist in the GOP just the democraps are.

I am not adverse to discussing gun rights. First Amendment and all that.
I am suggesting we shut down THEIR argument until such time that they can substantiate just where they are authorized to infringe on our rights. Whereupon the discussion ends right there when they can't. In other words nullify their position by refusing to acknowledge it because it is not built on firm legal ground.

Lizzie Borden used an ax - ax control, anybody?

Gotcha.

I agree. Shouldn't be any discussion at all.

Unfortunately a solid 50% of this country eats a very steady diet of dumb-fugk and I'm just trying to help them see the light. But as you can see, even on a relatively conservative site, you'll find plenty of proponents of gun control.



Travis