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We have to keep in mind that Roberts is considered a conservative appointed by a wan-a-bee conservative president!

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Long, long ago, the US Supreme Court stopped concerning itself with justice and took up "legal" affirmation of political agenda.

We NEED to start impeaching activist judges. We NEED to establish time limits on justices' service. We NEED to remove immunity from all courts so that criminal judges can be sued and imprisoned for crimes committed under the auspices of meting out justice.

We ain't stupid. We know what the Second Amendment reads. There is not tenable argument that can alter James Madison's cogent and clear words. The second a justice opines that Madison didn't mean what he wrote is the second that that justice oughta be yanked out of the court.


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Originally Posted by northwestalaska
We have to keep in mind that Roberts is considered a conservative appointed by a wan-a-bee conservative president!

Thanks George!


No one knows what Roberts is. Were I to guess, I'd go with his being a neocon or liberal. He certainly was appointed by a neocon/liberal.


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People in positions of power in our government have been wipin' their a$$e$ with The Constitution for a long time.


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Elections matter
The next President will get at least two Supreme Court nominees, although it really may not matter all that much.

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Originally Posted by RickyD
He's owned.



Yes he is.

Now you want to know by who and why?


Read Codeword: Barbelon - Danger in The Vatican, by P.H. Stuart and then read Rulers of Evil, by F. Tupper Saussy.

In between your readings, check the religious backgrounds of say 6 of 9 justices, pay attention to the recent blatherings of the Pope, and it becomes quite clear why Zerocare is allowed to stand in spite of it's Constitutionality.

Actually the Forward of Rulers of Evil will set the theme.


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
ponder this, then. The executive branch, the legislature, and the courts are now all closed to us, as a means to redress our concerns.
The 'government' in essense no longer represents us, since they are not accepting any input, and deciding on a daily basis, that what we believe in is no longer valid.
When you have no representation, no input, you are no longer a Citizen, but a subject.


That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


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yeah, that's the way I am seeing this.


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Just think of the precedent that was set yesterday. From now on, the Judicial branch can change laws to suit them. If a judge thinks a law isn't quite as clear as it should be, or it should say something different, it can make the change.

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That has been going on for awhile now, but not at the Supreme level. The game is fundamentally different now.

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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Just the Housing decision, is the death knell for America. They have ruled that words mean nothing, only the feelings of the aggrieved count
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The justices said people objecting to lending, zoning, sales and rental practices only need to show that they had a disparate impact on blacks or other minorities under a federal fair-housing law.


Cruz agrees.



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I'm convinced that the Lawn Jockey has something on Roberts.
Or maybe his benefactor George Soros simply bought him.
Either way,,,, something's rotten.

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Conservatives like Cruz need to rally the support and legislation to start unwinding the yo-yo that Obama has spun.

I'm not sure this is the right time, though.

They CAN de-fund his pet agencies though.


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Where, exactly, are the rest of them? They aren't at work.


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Originally Posted by RobJordan


Amazing how a movement to enslave other human beings as if they were cattle can become a rallying cry for liberty. Un&^%&king believable.


I have said it before and I'll say it again; the Constitution, with an interstate commerce clause & the legalization of slavery, held the seeds of liberty's destruction. No matter who won the war we'd have come out on the other side a nation that had stood against Liberty.

That having been said, slavery was not the reason for the war from the perspective of EITHER side. For the Yankees it became the rationale for the war and for the Confederates it was the catalyst, but it wasn't the reason. The evidence of this FACT has been bandied about ad nauseum.

Clearly the Consitution (and therefore consistent, Constitutional governance) was flawed from the beginning. There was no way around its flaws if we were to be a land of laws.

Of course now we've found a way around it, and we'll all be slaves as a result. African slavery as we knew it was inhumane, grotesque, and opposed to Liberty but it's days were clearly numbered before the war ever started. The tyranny of government, however, is as old as the total depravity that causes it, and it's days will not end until that depravity ends. Lincoln clearly sped along the inevitable.

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The Constitution has been dead far, far longer than one day. It died many years ago when citizens grew too fat & comfortable at the govt tit to hold their govt to account.

The Constitution today is merely the camouflage that tyrants use to gain the consent (or capitulation, they don't care) of the governed. It's a farce. The whole of DC as we believe it to be is a lie. It's been that way for a long long time. Anyone who expends energy trying to change it could invest just as well giving CPR to Thomas Jefferson.

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Originally Posted by efw
The Constitution has been dead far, far longer than one day. It died many years ago when citizens grew too fat & comfortable at the govt tit to hold their govt to account.



The Communist's are working to remedy that(comfort). Almost every single thing that the Obama administration has done has been a direct attack on the economy. It is amazing that it has struggled along as well as it has, and a real frustration for them, I'm sure. It's easy to get in the weeds with this stuff, but it really is that easy.



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Originally Posted by FieldGrade
I'm convinced that the Lawn Jockey has something on Roberts.
Or maybe his benefactor George Soros simply bought him.
Either way,,,, something's rotten.


There is speculation on this in some quarters as his pre-SCOTUS record did not point to his two ACA-saving votes.

Also, while I tend to agree with the tone and direction of this thread, I don't think anything will be quite as indicative of cultural collapse as when the SCOTUS "redefines marriage."
IMO, that will be the death blow to this nation. "Popular Culture Folks" don't have even the slightest inkling of the ramifications of that one, especially for Christians.

And I won't be surprised if Roberts is on board with that vote either.

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The Constitution has been dead far, far longer than one day. It died many years ago when citizens grew too fat & comfortable at the govt tit to hold their govt to account.



The Communist's are working to remedy that(comfort). Almost every single thing that the Obama administration has done has been a direct attack on the economy. It is amazing that it has struggled along as well as it has, and a real frustration for them, I'm sure. It's easy to get in the weeds with this stuff, but it really is that easy.



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