don't ask, don't tell. keep sexual activity and orientation out of ANY scouting agenda. this includes hetero sex. focus on outdoor skills, leadership, etc as always.
Someone will start a new boys club.....Straight scouts of America or maybe the NO Homo club of America.
problem is, that any new group would be subject to the same big thing that hurts BSA. A place to hold their meetings. Many groups are hosted by churches, but sadly, the churches are leading the charge to turn boys into victims of homo leaders.
What do you all think, age of consent lowered to 8 within the next 20 years?
I'm sure there's pervert groups working on it now.
Just go the Mexican or Arab or Southeast Asian route and enslave them; no need for consent and none of our sanctimonious pricks in the U.S. will say a word.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
There were, as of last month, six young men in the Boy Scouts on my road. As of the end of this month, only the young man completing his Eagle Scout project will still be a Scout; the rest have left with their parents over this decision.
I can't imagine that such an incident is isolated, and if happening across the country will determine the fate of Scouting.
As to the larger picture, I have been leading groups of high school students on outdoor trips for nearly thirty years. Over the years, with the rise of electronic media keeping kids indoors for uncounted thousands of hours all through their childhood, the level of interest in the outdoors has fallen off dramatically. I would presume this includes scouting.
From what I have seen the core group that has been keeping scouting alive are actively Christian families with involved parents. As you have stated, this ruling will drive them away.
The Boy Scouts will fade into irrelevancy
Birdwatcher
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
with the rise of electronic media keeping kids indoors for uncounted thousands of hours all through their childhood, the level of interest in the outdoors has fallen off dramatically. I would presume this includes scouting.
From what I have seen the core group that has been keeping scouting alive are actively Christian families with involved parents. As you have stated, this ruling will drive them away.
The Boy Scouts will fade into irrelevancy
Birdwatcher
I was an Asst. Scoutmaster for several years, my son is an Eagle Scout.
Its interesting you bring this up, I had a conversation with one of the Scoutmasters a few weeks ago about this. When I was involved we could barely arrange transportation for all the boy to go camping. Now I'm told none of the boys want to go out because their phones won't work in our old camping spots. The local Troop also took a hit with gay scouts being allowed. With homosexual scoutmasters now being in scouting will fall into oblivion.
Electronics and gays are going to be the death of Scouting.
I was going to add to my original post the fact that when you CAN get them to go, they are on their electronic media constantly.
Used to be the trips would fill a whole school bus and have a waiting list in just a day or two after being announced. In recent years we have actually had to cancel some due to lack of interest, which was unheard-of back in the day.
This is sad because those who did go along on camping trips and such twenty years ago invariably mention those trips as highlights of their high school years when I run into them on the street.
Birdwatcher
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
B-P's early books about his African campaigns are available in low-cost paper-bound editions.
Anybody who cares to go to the trouble of reading them can see how he developed the idea of Scouting (with a capital 'S'), and why he thought it would be a good thing to train up young boys in its principles.
Read those, and you'll understand that the Boy Scouts turned into something else a long time ago.
I was in the Boy Scouts in the 1960's and I recall thinking at the time that he was rolling in his grave even then.
I was in the Boy Scouts IN ENGLAND in the 1960's. British scouting uniforms rocked.. green berets and dark green shirts, with the fleur-de-lys prominently displayed.
And Clark's shoes brought out their "Animal Tracker" model with animal track soles and a compass hidden in a heel compartment which we all wore
I do recall being sadly disappointed with the plain khaki American scouting uniform and that non-functional fatigue cap.
Birdwatcher
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
B-P's early books about his African campaigns are available in low-cost paper-bound editions.
Anybody who cares to go to the trouble of reading them can see how he developed the idea of Scouting (with a capital 'S'), and why he thought it would be a good thing to train up young boys in its principles.
Read those, and you'll understand that the Boy Scouts turned into something else a long time ago.
These are books I should have read already, tks.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
