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W E T >>>wet. If it matters, it will be for 9mm and .38 special. The handgun will be a new Ruger <*<*.357 Magnum >*>*revolver with an <<extra cylinder for 9 mm>>,..
If anyone has a favourite powder(s) for a 9mm shooting 115 grain bullets or .38 special shooting 125 grain bullets, I would really appreciate your advice.
W E T - reading and comprehension ? ? You CAN load/shoot 38 special ammo in a 357 Mag! ! H I N T !!!
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Tsk, tsk, tsk:
Someone needs to pay closer attention.
.38 Ballard extra long .38 Casull .38 Long Colt .38 S&W ( Colt +NP ) ( C.I.P. ) .38 S&W ( Colt+NP ) ( SAAMI ) .38 Short Colt .38 Special ( C.I.P.) .38 Special ( SAAMI ) .38 Special +P ( SAAMI ) .38 Super Auto ( C.I.P ) .38 Super Auto +P ( SAAMI ) .38 Super Comp .38 Super TJ+P
9mm Bergman Bayard ( Long ) 9 mm Browning Kurz 9mm Browning Long 9mm FAR 9mm FX & CQT 9mm Federal 9mm Largo 9mm Luger ( C.I.P ) 9mm Luger ( SAAMI ) 9mm Makarov 9mm Mauser 9mm NATO 9mm Steyr 9mm Super Comp. 9mm Swedish rimmed 9mm Win Mag.
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W E T -
The O P 'specified' 357 Mag, 38 SPECIAL and..... 9mm for extra cyl.
I pay attention.
ANY 38 Special ammo will work in 357 don't ya think? Oh nevermind, wasted ?
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Tsk, tsk, tsk:
Someone needs to pay closer attention.
.38 Ballard extra long .38 Casull .38 Long Colt .38 S&W ( Colt +NP ) ( C.I.P. ) .38 S&W ( Colt+NP ) ( SAAMI ) .38 Short Colt .38 Special ( C.I.P.) .38 Special ( SAAMI ) .38 Special +P ( SAAMI ) .38 Super Auto ( C.I.P ) .38 Super Auto +P ( SAAMI ) .38 Super Comp .38 Super TJ+P I remember kicking you in the NUTS non-stop back in the day. Of course your user name was WETIBBE. You were a [bleep] tool then, you are a [bleep] tool now. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/550219/Searchpage/1/Main/57669/Words/WETIBBE/Search/true/Degradation_of_America_!#Post550219 https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...ue/VAMINROD_-_goes_to_school.#Post548109https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._special_message_for_the_Loon#Post536533
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.357 Auto Magnum .357 Herrett .357 Magnum ( .357 S&W magnum ) .357 Remington Maximum
That particular Ruger Blackhawk convertible does shoot a certain .38 case but not all .38 cases.
However, a .38 Special police revolver won't shoot .357 magnums. The two case lengths are different. The .357 Magnum case won't let the cylinder close.
What I said to the OP was - look out for load data posted on the internet. It may not be your cartridge at all. In fact some powders and loads can blow to gun easily.
Herco is hot stuff. UP there around 35 or so on the burn rate charts.
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Currently I use a RCBS Uniflow powder measure for reloading for my rifles. Can it also be used effectively for a handgun? If I recall correctly, the Uniflow came with two drums, one for rifle powder & one for pistol powder. If you do not have the pistol powder drum I am sure RCBS will send you one for a nominal charge.
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Someone needs to pay closer attention..... ...that your blather is unwelcome here.
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Anyone trying to say that loading pistol ammo is much more technical than rifle ammo hasn't done a whole lot of reloading.
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This guy seems like the sort of person who, when asked for the location of the nearest gas station, would go off on a lengthy dissertation about how it's not good for the fuel pump to run under 1/4 tank of gas.
Seems like much of his "experience" comes from reading the introduction section of reloading manuals, and overwhelming himself with extraneous data from Quickload.
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I gave up using my adjustable powder measure (RCBS Uniflow) to load pistol ammo a long time ago. I use the RCBS Little Dandy measure, I acquired a complete set of rotors but found that I only used a few so sold the majority of them. I have made several shuttle style measures of my own design which I leave set-up with the bushings for my most often used loads. I have converted my expander dies to powder thru expander design and mount the powderr measure to them using a Hornady Loc-N-Load adapter. That way mounting the measure and changing powder is quick and easy. Finally I have added Sinclair adapters to the measures, this allows changing powder without pouring it from powder measure to conatainer. Anyone that would like to see pics of my set-up can e-mail me at: bobtwining sbcglobal.net and I will send pics of my set-up. It takes a lot of the tediousness out of the powder measure routine.
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RCBS Little Dandy is the best.
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.357 Auto Magnum .357 Herrett .357 Magnum ( .357 S&W magnum ) .357 Remington Maximum
That particular Ruger Blackhawk convertible does shoot a certain .38 case but not all .38 cases.
However, a .38 Special police revolver won't shoot .357 magnums. The two case lengths are different. The .357 Magnum case won't let the cylinder close.
What I said to the OP was - look out for load data posted on the internet. It may not be your cartridge at all. In fact some powders and loads can blow to gun easily.
Herco is hot stuff. UP there around 35 or so on the burn rate charts. I'm willing to learn something new…..please fill us (me) in on which 38 Specials you cited won't fit into the 357 Mag Ruger cylinder. Also, how is Herco 'hot' when is sits after Bullseye, Red Dot, Green Dot, Unique, and in front of Blue Dot in terms of relative speed (among the older Hercules flake offerings)? The chamber on the Blackhawk 357/9mm convertible, BTW, is cut for the common (NATO) 9mm (x19 Parabellum)/Luger.
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Once again I would like to thank everyone (well almost everyone) who shared their knowledge and experience with me in regards to reloading for handguns.
JWall , thank you for pointing out to that one individual who keeps infesting the campfire, that his reading and comprehension sucks swampwater. I think I will make use of the ignore button. It's so much easier to read "You are ignoring this user."
With that one exception, this site has been a godsend for me. I have gleaned a lot of knowledge over the last few years. Thank you Rick Bin for providing this forum.
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RCBS little dandy pistol powder measure. Been using mine for many years. Love it, very accurate.
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I can get consistent measurements of 2.7 gr. of IMR 700X (a large flake powder) through my uniflow powder measure. This is the lowest end for the measure with this powder.
My uniflow measure is 20 years old. If you have a newer model, you can get an interchangeable handgun instert (stock item) for pistol charges.
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No - when I think I makes my head hurt !
.357 Auto Magnum .357 Herrett .357 Magnum ( .357 S&W magnum ) .357 Remington Maximum
That particular Ruger Blackhawk convertible does shoot a certain .38 case but not all .38 cases.
However, a .38 Special police revolver won't shoot .357 magnums. The two case lengths are different. The .357 Magnum case won't let the cylinder close.
What I said to the OP was - look out for load data posted on the internet. It may not be your cartridge at all. In fact some powders and loads can blow to gun easily.
Herco is hot stuff. UP there around 35 or so on the burn rate charts. I'm willing to learn something new…..please fill us (me) in on which 38 Specials you cited won't fit into the 357 Mag Ruger cylinder. Also, how is Herco 'hot' when is sits after Bullseye, Red Dot, Green Dot, Unique, and in front of Blue Dot in terms of relative speed (among the older Hercules flake offerings)? The chamber on the Blackhawk 357/9mm convertible, BTW, is cut for the common (NATO) 9mm (x19 Parabellum)/Luger. Sometimes, being factual is unnecessary exercise...the best answer being...silence. Even so, all points made are valid and useful.
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Klik -
After this first few (2-3) words I QUIT reading all wet's post.
FOR THE RECORD Herco is a 'little' slower burning than Unique AS you pointed out. I also 'used to' use it in 44 Mag, @ 9 gr or so under 240 SWC for a REDUCED load. It was very accurate in the 44 Mag as well and NOT HOT at all.
Thanks for chiming in.
Jerry
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Moby - thank you as well. I've had to be out of town this afternoon and just got back. I was 'going' to post FOR you to not pay attention to 'wet' because he could cause major confusion.
I now can tell that you have more handloading experience than I thot. Great.
I can GARUNTEE' that 6.7 or even 7 grs of Herco is NOT dangerous. IF you damage a 9 mil with 7 grs of Herco--something ELSE is wrong.
I and most of us 'round here' are GLAD and willing to share info and most importantly EXPERIENCE with you/others. I'll be glad to TRY to help anytime.
Jerry
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Moby - thank you as well.
I can GARUNTEE' that 6.7 or even 7 grs of Herco is NOT dangerous. IF you damage a 9 mil with 7 grs of Herco--something ELSE is wrong. Jerry CONTEXT of this thread *** ! ! ! 7 grs of Herco WITH 115 HP bullets in 9 mm. Obviously bullet weight is of PRIME importance. whewww, I feel better qualifying that.
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