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Glock 20 10mm is the one gun that does it all.
It can be concealed if needed but OP did not specify concealed carry or even two legged defense. Just "defense". A Glock 20 covers all bases.
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GG, I spent a day in a shoothouse observing some Brits shooting those in the SD version {silencer]. They liked to put 2-3 in the blowhole and I never saw a miss. They were that good w/ everything they shot.
The Uzi is pretty cool...if you are a jewish woman.
The G19 is the choice of the Ubermensch.
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Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
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Kahr CM9.. Because I Will carry it. Great everyday gun.
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J-frame .38.
My average daily risk level is low.
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If I was in some theoretical universe where I could only have one pistol, I guess I would want whichever one I could theoretically get the most ammo for. And if they stuck me in a theoretical universe that only had glocks, I would shoot my way to the nearest f-ing wormhole asap.
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GG, I spent a day in a shoothouse observing some Brits shooting those in the SD version {silencer]. They liked to put 2-3 in the blowhole and I never saw a miss. They were that good w/ everything they shot.
The Uzi is pretty cool...if you are a jewish woman.
The G19 is the choice of the Ubermensch.
mike r The MP5SD is a very different weapon than the MP5k. SMG's are worthwhile weapons, machine pistols are worthless.
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Only one for defense is tuff.
I carry in two environment, in the urban environment I currently carry a CZ-82. If the woods I borrow a friend HK USP in 45.
I am currently saving money to buy a Glock 20 and 43. BTW not to high-jack the post but would love feedback on the Glock 43.
But with your original post in mind and I could only have one I guess I would do a Gllock 19 with a 960 rowland conversion for the woods.
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GG, some people have access to MP5ks w/ silencer. Some people can shoot them w/ mastery. Because this is outside of your experience does not alter the facts. The secret service used to run micro and mini Uzis in a very effective manner. It is the archer not the arrow.
mike r
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GG, some people have access to MP5ks w/ silencer. Some people can shoot them w/ mastery. Because this is outside of your experience does not alter the facts. The secret service used to run micro and mini Uzis in a very effective manner. It is the archer not the arrow.
mike r I have a LOT of experience with SMG's. The USSS had butt-stocks on their UZI's. An MP5K with an extended buttstock such as the one on the PDW can be effective. Even the crappy H&K retractable stock can turn a useless MP5K into an effective weapon. But without the buttstock, you're much better armed with a handgun. I've seen it time and time and time again. Put up 5 targets at nearly any range, one guy with a handgun and one guy with a stockless machine pistol, the guy with the handgun will put effective fire on all 5 targets in much shorter time. Now when you extend the stock, everything changes. My comments were directed to the MP5K that was in MM's photo; worhtless. Take that same SMG and put the PDW stock on it, and it becomes an effective weapon.
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Sorry, you are wrong. The Brits in question had a sling/harness system that allowed them to press out the MP5k against resistance and retract it to its original position. They normally fired in semi-auto mode but were very capable in FA also.
It is obvious that it would be easier to fire any weapon w/ a buttstock. What you are missing is that there are people w/ skills that exceed your limitations and experience.
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Most machine guns are good for two things, to repel bad guys who try to border a ship and for cover fire. Urban door to door, 12 ga with 00 buck
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Urban door to door, 12 ga with 00 buck Why would you say that?
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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Glock 29 for me,
but for my locale I want defense against critters as well as humans
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