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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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Illegals cost the tax payer over 100 billion a year, about 3/4s of that by the state yaxpayer.

Start knocking that down by percentages and eventually, even if you only reduce illegals by 50% you will see a substantial improvement in savings, plus removing a high percentage criminal element.

Of course saying it won't be done doesn't mean it can't be done.

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Of course it can be done. Is John McCain going to do it?


Nope... I like Cruz but he isn't either.

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Originally Posted by krp
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Illegals cost the tax payer over 100 billion a year, about 3/4s of that by the state yaxpayer.

Start knocking that down by percentages and eventually, even if you only reduce illegals by 50% you will see a substantial improvement in savings, plus removing a high percentage criminal element.

Of course saying it won't be done doesn't mean it can't be done.

Kent



Of course it can be done. Is John McCain going to do it?


Nope... I like Cruz but he isn't either.

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Neither is Trump...by himself. That's my point, if they were all Cruz's and Trump's, it would be snap. It can happen, and hopefully it will, but "Make America Great Again" is just a photo negative of "Hope and Change". That's not a bad thing, but it is...what it is.


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So this is a Trump thread?

I thought your point was funding... and then political will of implementation.

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Originally Posted by Calhoun
So after reading this entire thread, I think I get curdog's point.

It's too difficult to change Texas, so the rest of the US has to change.

Got it.

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Build the wall... on Texas' Northern border wink

Actually, just build an Interstate highway along the border.. They come with fences on each side.


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I realize you're trying to be funny, but I don't believe people understand the magnitude of the task being suggested. It would take many years just to gain viable access to most of the Rio Grand to begin construction of a wall, much less the construction itself. Can it be done? Sure. Do we have the political will? I doubt it.

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Willing to do something about it is the catch 22.

Not all areas are conducive to a fence or wall. But, if willing, the border CAN be shut down effectively.


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Originally Posted by krp
I imagine anyone with half a brain could figure out how to shuffle military resources from nonessential out of country to down on the border.

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Yep.

But that's the point.

600 Billion and we're being invaded.
What/why are we paying for, seriously?


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Texas has a barrier with the river, a phsical barrier is just a symbol and only as strong as enforcement.

Places in az could use a better symbol than a barber wire fence. But without enforcement any materials used would become salvage scrap for Beto with a torch.

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Originally Posted by HawkI
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I imagine anyone with half a brain could figure out how to shuffle military resources from nonessential out of country to down on the border.

Kent

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Yep.

But that's the point.

600 Billion and we're being invaded.
What/why are we paying for, seriously?



It's a military funding issue not a SS funds issue.

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Originally Posted by tjm10025
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I figure manned posts on an average of 440 yards. Detection would be their primary function as opposed to interdiction.

What's the point of detecting them, then?


To notify the local cavalry of course.

Also to compile detailed data on the number, nature and location of incursions so as to allocated said mobile cavalry posts more effectively.

Of course, all this wont happen without the political will, and as pointed out, funding.

Forgot the other thing people have suggested; go after all the Americans who hire 'em by the millions.

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
I realize you're trying to be funny, but I don't believe people understand the magnitude of the task being suggested. It would take many years just to gain viable access to most of the Rio Grand to begin construction of a wall, much less the construction itself. Can it be done? Sure. Do we have the political will? I doubt it.

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I understand Pat.. Just making light of a situation that could be solved if people were willing to do so.

Treat and defend our borders just as we treat and defend the front door of our home.

So simple... and it would work.


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I hear ya. Don't think we haven't considered that wall on the northern border of Texas as well. laugh


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Originally Posted by HawkI
600 Billion and we're being invaded.
What/why are we paying for, seriously?


The illusion of security.

Plus the govt. gets to say: "We ARE doing something about it..."

Yeah, right.


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Originally Posted by HawkI
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I imagine anyone with half a brain could figure out how to shuffle military resources from nonessential out of country to down on the border.

Kent

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Yep.

But that's the point.

600 Billion and we're being invaded.
What/why are we paying for, seriously?



There it is.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Willing to do something about it is the catch 22.

Not all areas are conducive to a fence or wall. But, if willing, the border CAN be shut down effectively.


I agree completely.

But we can't let Mexico dictate what constitutes acceptable rules of engagement and expect to get the job done.


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Curdog< I couldn't agree with you more, This morning we had 3 Illegals climb a gate on the south ranch, one of them fell off the gate into a cattle guard and broke his leg badly,spent the morning waiting on the B.P. and EMS to come and take him to Rio Grande City, for medical care, don't know what that's going to cost but we are all going to pay for it. Rio7

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Curdog< I couldn't agree with you more, This morning we had 3 Illegals climb a gate on the south ranch, one of them fell off the gate into a cattle guard and broke his leg badly,spent the morning waiting on the B.P. and EMS to come and take him to Rio Grande City, for medical care, don't know what that's going to cost but we are all going to pay for it. Rio7


I knew an old boy..dead now... that got run over in Jaurez one night and broke both legs. He came to in the wee hours propped against the wall of the bus station in El Paso.

And No, he had not been given medical attention prior to being dumped there by the Mexican cops.


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Originally Posted by RIO7
Curdog< I couldn't agree with you more, This morning we had 3 Illegals climb a gate on the south ranch, one of them fell off the gate into a cattle guard and broke his leg badly,spent the morning waiting on the B.P. and EMS to come and take him to Rio Grande City, for medical care, don't know what that's going to cost but we are all going to pay for it. Rio7


Blue, you'll be lucky if you don't hear from his lawyer.

Rancher I knew in Uvalde had that happen. He told the lawyer to GFH. Never heard back. Been a few years ago though.


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When I got there he was still in the cattle guard with both bones of his lower leg sticking out thru his pants, we got him out and first aid, don't think he has a lawyer on his mind, he couldn't thank us enough. I know the E.R. Doctor they took him to I will find out later today how he is doing. Rio7

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