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Where have I seen the difference between the 270 and 280....?
I used the 270 way back when the Metallic silhouette game was getting off the ground. Shooting 150's at 90 lb. Rams at 500 meters on more than a few occasions I hit the ram and failed to knock it over. Many times one foot on the stand and one on the ground. I lost a few matches because of that.
With Paul Marquart scoring and spotting for me he offered to turn me a barrel in 7mm and chamber it in 280. His very first 7mm btw because 30 cal. was as low as he went. I took him up on it and started shooting Sierra 168's...problem solved.
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Very interesting information.
Wonder how the .270 would work now with 150 Berger VLD's. Which 150 were you using back then?
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My girlfriend soon to be wife bought my Mountain Rifle not too long after they came out. We had been to the big shop in Roanoke and I lusted badly after the 270. Meanwhile back home Charlie at the local shop had a 280 in stock and she bought it. That headed me toward the 280 but I would take a 270 just the same.
The biggest advantage I see in the 280 for normal hunting ranges is the availability of cheap 160 grain bullets.
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Wonder how the .270 would work now with 150 Berger VLD's. Which 150 were you using back then? I was shooting the Sierra 150 SBT. I would bet that the VLD would be a game changer. At least I think it probably would. I've owned a few 280's over the years and now shoot a 270. I don't feel short changed.
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Broncos are officially the worst team in the nation this year.
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It's a 270 for straight folk.
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Nothing induces a coma faster than a 280 vs 270 conversation.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Nothing like getting into the weeds eh Bob? 
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I'll bet his was the Ackley version, knowing full well it was coming..
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Nothing induces a coma faster than a 280 vs 270 conversation. Yes, like 'O and Biden ! ! "Please Educate me on the 280 Rem." THREAD TITLE INevitably............>>>>>
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1-9 will do it for most 175's, but if you want to use absolutely any 175-180 under any conditions, 1-8.
But all .270 and .280 users would actually be better off with a B-29. You really ought to reprint that article. Or update it: "The B-29 With Modern Powders," "Perfection Improved! B-29 AI!", "Revealed! Gaston Glock's Favorite Rifle: The B-29".
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1-9 will do it for most 175's, but if you want to use absolutely any 175-180 under any conditions, 1-8.
But all .270 and .280 users would actually be better off with a B-29. You really ought to reprint that article. Or update it: "The B-29 With Modern Powders," "Perfection Improved! B-29 AI!", "Revealed! Gaston Glock Favorite Rifle: The B-29". 
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1-9 will do it for most 175's, but if you want to use absolutely any 175-180 under any conditions, 1-8.
But all .270 and .280 users would actually be better off with a B-29. You really ought to reprint that article. Or update it: "The B-29 With Modern Powders," "Perfection Improved! B-29 AI!", "Revealed! Gaston Glock Favorite Rifle: The B-29". If you would stick it in a lever action and write it up, the Editor Emeritus at Wolfe could have an orgasm.
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Good idea. Maybe Hornady can be persuaded to make a .29-caliber Flex-Tip!
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But all .270 and .280 users would actually be better off with a B-29.
Someone Alert Nosler ! Your B-29 would certainly be an ideal re-bore candidate for all those .270's suffering from the embarassment of a 10" twist! 
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The .280 Remington. Still playing with the load work up for this one but I'm thinking a 150 gr.{ Nobler
icebound} at 3010 FPS should to a decent job.
If not there's always the 150 gr. Partition.
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Yeah - STUFF happens! Now for the record: Damned spell chest/ corrector. Wish I could turn the damn thing off, remove the program and jam it up the rectum of the rectal oriface that designed, SIDEWAYS! No, I did not. really. Paul B. THAT is Paul's post !! I want you to get the credit not me! If you hadn't told, no one would have known. Jerry
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Been thinking about Mule Deer's comments on the 9" vs 8" twist for a 7MM. I've been playing with the 150 gr. Accubond Long Range for a while and in two 7X57s and the .280, accuracy has been horrible. I have one more 7x57 to try and hope this one with turn the trick. It's an FN Mauser (J.C. Higgins M50) that has been rebarreled and restocked by my gunsmith. Very accurate with Winchester 140 gr. factory ammo but shows pressures from reloads that work just fine in the Ruger #1 and M70 FWT.  I have to try and get the twist rate from that one as I have not done much with it because of the tendency to show pressures much quicker. Regular 150 gr. Partitions shoot just fine in all three rifle. Haven't tried them yet in the 150 but I'm betting they'll be OK. Paul B.
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I doubt the twist rate is the problem with the 150 ABLR. Even a 9.5 twist should work with those, and it's rare to find a 7mm with anything slower these days--though I did have a gunsmith (without telling me) rebarrel a 7x57 with a 1-11.5 twist barrel!
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I doubt the twist rate is the problem with the 150 ABLR. Even a 9.5 twist should work with those, and it's rare to find a 7mm with anything slower these days--though I did have a gunsmith (without telling me) rebarrel a 7x57 with a 1-11.5 twist barrel! The Winchester M70 Featherweight in .280 is listed at 10" !?! The various 7mm Rem Mags are listed at 9 1/2. As I recall, my '92 Fwt Classic in .280 was a 10 incher. Never tried 175's in it, but everything else I've tried shoots very well.
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