Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles What's keeping the RAR from replacing the 77?

Timney fixed the trigger problems. It needs a true recoil lug. Then you could fit it to a proper fiberglass stock without much fuss.

This is an important statement even coming from a small sample size.

So are we at a point from the RAR owners that it is capable of Tikka-like performance? In other words, from the box to the range by-passing bedding compound, pressure point tweaks, mag box issues, bad action screws, prayerful chants, incense and candles?

You don't even need to mess with a Timney. I fixed the trigger on mine with a visit to my local gunshop where I picked up a free chunk of coil spring. It took me maybe 20-25 minutes to take the action out of the stock, get the trigger apart, and then a couple of attempts with the wire snip to get the replacement coil to the right length. Then put it all back together, and it's a solid trigger with a measured 2.25 lb weight of pull.

My RAR Predator ( [b][color:#3333FF]6.5 Creedmoor Shoots![/color][/b] ) is showing definite signs of being a solid 0.5 moa rifle, just like my Tikka T3s in 223 and 6.5x55 are.

Is their trigger an LC-6 or some other version? It looks like an accu-trigger style.

I think the biggest difference between the 77 and the RAR is one of them is a rifle.




Travis

Yup, and with Hawkeyes available online for about $550, I'd have a tough time dropping $300-$350 on something I don't really like. At least the cheap Marlins have a real magazine.

There's a pretty big market for these rifles. One of my buddies actually likes these and scoff's at the M77'S. He's always disliked the m77 for some reason. One of those kind of guys that shoots a rifle and gets 7" groups at 100 yards and blames the rifle every time. One of these days he (and others like this) will get the hint.. Personally I'd rather have one good rifle than 3 cheap azzed ones... Now the RAR rimfires are a different story and may hurt m77 rimfire sales.

An "upgraded" RAR is going to cost just about the same amount as a Hawkeye.

I prefer the Hawkeye myself.

The 'Murican is more of a tool than a pride-of-ownership item, but it serves a purpose. You don't mind getting it dirty, it is light, it shoots without much fuss, and it is cheap. My secondhand 7mm-08 SS compact likes Hornady's American Whitetail 139 Interlock load just fine ($21 at the hardware store). It's not as pretty or as solid as a M77, but it does what it is supposed to do, which means the engineers did their jobs.

More 'Murica......

I couldn't care less about what other rifles have over it on a standard configuration.
I couldn't find a lightweight, carbine length bolt platform for the Blackout that came factory threaded.
The rimfire American impressed me enough to try the ranch. Now that I have I'm thoroughly impressed... not enough to but a 308 and sell my other rigs but enough to shoot and enjoy the American for what it is.
A useful tool that's standing alone in a market full of redundant rifles.
Like I say...the ran h specifically.
Love to see the same setup in a 44 and 357.

It's a little rough around the edges ..... The bolt to be exact.
But having a carbine model in 44 or 357 using the rotary mag. Good idea ringworm

I do dislike what the RAR (sales) have apparently done to M77 choices. The M77 is more of a "hunting rifle", while the RAR is more of a "shooting rifle". That said, I suspect the popularity of the RAR reflects what their buyers us the rifles for these days. It's no longer the serious hunter market as much as in the past.

There's a big market for TV Reality shows too, just not in my house.

I might pick up a stainless .223 to shoot cheap ammo in someday when I've got a little money burning a hole in my pocket. I haven't had one since I traded off my Sako about 1987 or so and it feels almost un-American, kinda like not having an '06.

I think Ruger has decide that Every American should own as many rifles As they can. Only way they are gonna do that is to give Americans a damn good shooter for a damn good price.

They did that. I doubt the 77 will go anywhere. Its more of a Rifleman's Rifle.

What's a "30-06?"

Is that a 308 long?

Crow hunter- "...switch manufacturing to China." CRIPES, I sure hope NOT! Look what doing that has done to baby formula, wallboard, laminated flooring, dog food ....and a lotta things we don't know about -YET. Homesteader

While shag and mule deer pretty much nailed it above. Truly and I have said it in the past if you just want a tool to shoot a deer then the price point rifles such as the RAR and stevens offerings work fine. Still I don't consider them nice rifles but then I'm older and consider a nice rifle only comes in walnut and blue with nice checkering etc. to me all plastic stocked guns & I have a couple are the same be it a RAR or a Kimber montana.
I do see the OPs point and think there is a real possibility that the nice gun market may become controlled predominately by the smaller boutique companies like Cooper, Kimber etc and the big boys may phase out of the "nice"gun market because they expect a ever expanding volume of sales to satisfy their stockholders.

The hunter of today isn't the same as the hunter of yesteryear.
The large b
Locks of land in much of the US are corporate owned or have been broken down to subdivided small plots.
The average new hunter doesn't view the rifle as anything more than a means to an end. A tool like binos or tree stands.
Wanting blued steel, walnut and glossy black scopes is becoming a thing of the past.
Give it another 20 years and see what the landscape loos like.
The axis, RAR, ect. Are the first wave....actually shooters for the price that everyone can afford.
I like it.
I like the scopes rifle as the arm of America. I wish more people would see that as an option over the AR.