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You have the entire World as proof, yet you brush it off.

Ignorance, stupidity, blindness, or denial. Which is it?

The Earth is proof of the the Earth.

There's a reason your argument is called an "argument from ignorance".

Dang, I thought this was gonna be a joke about first cousins.....

And your theory that the Universe was created from ...

So you are not familiar with the current state of the Science of Cosmology?

Why is that not surprising.

What is your evidence that your preferred supernatural being created "the entire world"?

Yes, I'm quite familiar with it. And I understand that it boils down to an uncaused cause - just like God.

Except that you call God "nothing". You totally dismiss it. You don't even understand the implications of your own current favorite theory.

C'mon Antelope Sniper, you have provided zero evidence - only your personal arguments and, on the outside chance that you did possess some evidence, even you should be smart enough to know that evidence is not PROOF. You have shown zero PROOF.

Now, I'd bet that your little little two-year old is lovely and smart - but how on earth could you possibly know what she denies when it comes to God? Get serious - and don't dare tell a fib to that little kid.

The following is an excerpt from the book And These Signs Will Follow. Like it says in the text, I think belief in God is instinctive. This is a true story as are the other twenty-five or thirty in the book.

Shane, a seven or eight year old neighbor kid, used to come over to do ceramics. Well, actually he would play with the clay that spilled out onto the concrete where I was mixing it. Kids are great people. To facilitate mixing, I once put a motor with a three inch propeller into the fifty five gallon drum of slip. The whole area vibrated from the activity generated by the half horse power motor. It was great. The propeller must have been wired to my eyes. When I saw Shane coming, enough slip flew out of the barrel for him to form his figurines. Shane sat down and immediately involved himself in the serious business of play.

"Shane, what do you think of this?" I asked, indicating the barrel; not having any idea what a child would answer.
"It's not scarin' me, but it's scarin' my tummy.” Pretty soon he began to complain of a stomach ache. We went into the house and sat on the couch. We talked for a couple of minutes. While we were sitting there talking he put his hands on his stomach and doubled over in pain.

"Would you like me to pray for God to take away your tummy ache?" I asked.
"My dad told me there is no God," Shane said, grimacing and still bent over. Since I believe children instinctively know God Is, I asked,
"If there is a God, do you believe He could take away your tummy ache if He wanted to?"
"Yes," he said.
"Well, then do you don’t mind if I pray?" I ask.
"No," he said, “I don’t mind.” I asked the Lord Jesus Christ to heal Shane instantly so he would know Jesus cares. He quickly sat up with a big smile and said,
"Jesus cares, doesn't He!"

You keep repeating that falsehood when I've shown you the proof. It makes you look silly

Reason and logic says if something is real it's existance can be shown or proven.

Religion relies on faith alone, which has nothing to do with reason or knowledge.

There's no "denial" of something that can't be shown to exist

BS'ing a 7 year old is hardly proof of some mystical instinctive belief in God.

He probably also instinctively would agree girls have Cooties too.

If you say that the issue is simple, maybe it will come across to you in simple terms.

So -you say you are an atheist and that is supposed to be some sort of "proof". It is not - it is a profession - and a hypothesis on your part that you cannot prove becuase NO ONE other than you can know your true beliefs, positions and the standards on which you act. Others might hear what you profess and see some evidence, but neither is proof. You may prove that you exist, but you cannot prove that you - or anyone else - is an atheist.

The fact that you say there is no God - and challenge others to prove that there is - is simply the same as others saying that there is no atheist and that you are not any such thing - and challenging you to prove otherwise. Is one obligated to take your word as "proof"? Think a little bit.

I haven't challenged anyone to prove anything.
Some keep insisting there is a "God" and anyone who doesn't believe will be "punished". They believe in fantasy worlds called "heaven" and "hell" and want others to take it all seriously.

They are the ones who expect everything to be believed based on "faith" alone, so why would they question the word of someone who can actually relate what they know to be true (that they do not believe in some supreme being) VS one who can only relate what they "believe" (hope, want) to be true, based on an old book?

Once again, you are just wrong.

When a baby is born, they have only the barest of instincts, they have not yet accumulated any knowledge. As a result, we know their level of knowledge regarding religion. It's zero, nada, nil. A baby cannot believe in any god because they have not concept of religion or gods. You cannot believe in some for which you have not even formed the vaguest of concepts. As a result, all babies are atheist.

You care also an atheist toward all the thousands of gods you've never heard of. Since you know nothing of such gods, you cannot believe in their specific myths, an therefore are an atheist toward those gods.

In addition a person proclaiming their non-belief in a god is evidence for that non-belief. Of course it must be evaluated according to the standard of evidence, but such non-belief is an ordinary claim, and as a result would only require ordinary evidence. This is very different from the person making an extraordinary supernatural claim, which would of course, require extraordinary evidence.

As for your request for "proof", I've never asked you or any other theist for proof, just evidence. What you are attempting is a cheap apologetics trick of shifting the burden of proof and and the standards of evidence because you have nothing.

Once again, the evidence is on our side, and you have nothing.

The reason there are thousands of gods is because thousands of peoples know they aren't the end-all-be-all.

The understanding of God, like physics, has been an evolution. The earliest people had some ideas, but not the complete revelation, collective experience or memory to develop their ideas and observations. For example, Abraham is thought to have been born in Sumeria and worshiped Nanna,a moon god. Then he received revelation from Yahweh. But Abraham still had no idea about Hell or the Trinity - those were revelations that came later. However, Abraham did know about creation and Noah. These things were part of Sumerian religion. The fact that they were passed from Sumer (and earlier) on down to Christianity in no way lessens their validity.

There are kernels of truth in all the thousands of religions. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of them all.

This is utter drivel - meaningless home-brewed "evidence" for whatever your "side" may be (lonely there?). Extraordinary wordgarbage that means zero. In the matter of any proof that there exists an atheist - you FAIL. Done with your mess and out of here.

You are "out of here" because the most likely apologetic response to my position creates even bigger theological problems for you.

Face it. Your cheap trick didn't work, and you have nothing else.

Sounds like a pretty inefficient way for the "one god" to deliver his message. He delivers thousands of different messages for men to pick through and plagiarize from one another for several millenniums?

As for Christ fulfills the Hindu and Islamic, Greek, Norse, and Aztec scriptures? That's Absurd.

Everything is absurd to you.

That's not true.

Most of what you say about shooting is spot on.