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I handled the DD5 (daniel defense 308) today at my local gun store. The slim forearm made it seem lighter than its 8.5 pound weight. The bolt catch/release was smallish and did not seem to engage the bolt easily, had ambi safety and mag release along with their new butt stock. The upper was "sculpted" looking thinner than a normal AR10 type receiver, chromed bolt and seemed to be a chrome lined 16 inch barrel.
All in all I could not see the $2700 bucks they are asking for it. I am still waiting to find a flaw in the Ruger SR762 I bought which is 8.6 pounds. The DD5 comes with a SSA trigger so adding one to the Ruger brings it up a bit to about $1800 about a grand less than the DD.
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I just don't see how DD keeps selling their stuff for as much as they do. It's good, no doubt, but there's a lot of good stuff out there nowadays.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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At that price pass the SCAR 17.
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I would not get a SCAR, but a Knight is in that ballpark.
I bought a DD V11 sometime ago, the trigger was awful, the barrel is of lower quality than a V7 LW I bought 3 or so years ago.
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Where are you finding KAC's for less than 3K?
Considering this is a brand new rifle from a top end company, the price doesn't seem too high. Still cheaper than some LMT's, KAC's, and LaRue's. I doubt they put this rifle out to compete with the low end .308's, they have a target market and if the rifle performs well, they will sell. However, .308's are prone to gas issues. I will be interested to see if DD addressed this issue with theirs or ignored it like most other companies (cough DPMS cough).
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I've handled the SR762 and for the money, I like it a lot. One may end up on my Christmas list.
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I was using the "in for $2700 in for $4000" analogy. At the $3000 mark another grand is a "so what" right now I am quite happy with my Ruger piston rifle, its not a "professional rifle" but it suits my hunting needs. I just run WW 150 grain loaded factory PP's in it, and you pull the trigger and it hits the bulls eye.
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but there's a lot of good stuff out there nowadays. And in a 7.62, for a good, dependable, durable, long lasting "combat" rifle, what is that makes up that "lot of other good stuff out there nowadays"? What's available for a substantially lower price as you are implying, that fits that bill? MM
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For that kind of money get a SCAR17, much nicer IMO that I got rid of both my AR10's after getting a SCAR17.
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I would not get a SCAR, but a Knight is in that ballpark.
I bought a DD V11 sometime ago, the trigger was awful, the barrel is of lower quality than a V7 LW I bought 3 or so years ago. jimmyp, are you talking SR25? Thanks, Greg
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I would not get a SCAR, but a Knight is in that ballpark.
I bought a DD V11 sometime ago, the trigger was awful, the barrel is of lower quality than a V7 LW I bought 3 or so years ago. Wny no SCAR?
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but there's a lot of good stuff out there nowadays. And in a 7.62, for a good, dependable, durable, long lasting "combat" rifle, what is that makes up that "lot of other good stuff out there nowadays"? What's available for a substantially lower price as you are implying, that fits that bill? MM I wasn't referring to the 7.62 specifically, but DD generally. I never implied that anything else was substantially cheaper, only that I that I thought DD was high. Rather than spend $2700 on a 7.62 (which are notoriously over-gassed) from a company that has a reputation for building over-gassed guns in 5.56 and is just getting into the 7.62 game....I'd spend $200 more on a Larue, who has been building good 7.62s for quite a while and has an excellent reputation for accuracy. -Although the Larue is 8% more expensive, for me that 8% makes the DD overpriced.
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OK, I thought you might know about something else out there that I wasn't aware of.
I agree too, about the Larue 7.62, but DD usually does it pretty right..........7.62's are just plain pricey.
Can't quite bring myself to have a Ruger or a DMPS though yet.
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... I will be interested to see if DD addressed this issue with theirs or ignored it like most other companies (cough DPMS cough). i heard that!!!
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before I spend money like that, anything I am getting is coming from a custom smith for sure.
Rack guns are a different story.
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Can't quite bring myself to have a Ruger or a DMPS though yet.
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i'm beginning to get a dpms complex.
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ok i recognize i have a problem, and have been told (by experts no less) that is the first step. i'm ready for therapy. i'll go first. i'm djones... and i shoot a dpms.
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I have two DD's. They run flawlessly, but for what they cost, they should outshoot lower end guns. They don't.
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just finished my crash course therapy session on dpms and i finally get it. shot 7 hogs and only found 6. also missed two. dam dpms!!!
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