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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
So this all started because Les wanted to retire in 2016 and wanted a HCIW scenario to help out things.


If he's ready to quit, do like Spurrier, quit. No need to drag it out.


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I don't care where Les goes, as long as he goes.


Help us out. Why is he in the crosshairs after so much success. Personality? Unfulfilled expectations? I've seen no recruiting violations to haunt him, no Jerry Sandusky.

Talk about unloved??


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I work with a lot of diehard LSU fans ( as well as saints, but that's another story).

Ask them all about Miles, and their biggest complaint about him is boneheaded play calling.


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I get that, but he does win and win a lot.

When the wild plays work, then the coach is "bold. imaginative, a genius". When they don't work, "he's an idiot".


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its because he eats grass isn't it?

I've been to an LSU football game as well as a Bama game.

LSU is serious about football

but all they have to do is look at UT (as mentioned before) or even Florida to see that you just can't plug and play a coach

if I had to think of coaches out there - I'd consider a name you don't hear mentioned much - Jim Tressel - I know he's an Ohio guy thru and thru but he does have 4 national championships under his belt in DII and one at Ohio St.

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And ran an exemplary program. (Not that that matters to anyone.)


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Didn't Tressel have some NCAA problems?

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As a Bama fan I would hate to see him leave


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Well according to the latest, Miles won't make it through the week. Dumb move on their part in my opinion but it is what it will be. Richts somehow keeps dodging the bullet. Seems like his name has come up for the last three years. The new coach in Florida is going to make waves for some years to come and the coach at Arkansas is getting it done slowly but surely. He's going to win a conference title before he's done. College football is so exciting I don't even watch the pros any more. powdr

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Originally Posted by mathman
Didn't Tressel have some NCAA problems?


Not sure about him, but he was coaching when Maurice claret showed his a$$.
Might be what you are thinking off.


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Originally Posted by 5sdad
And ran an exemplary program. (Not that that matters to anyone.)


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Tressel did have NCAA problems, why do you think he is gone. The big money people will pay the grass eater's buyout, not the school.
Charlie Strong is fighting the mess that Ol Mackie Brown left. Recruited players for a system that they weren't running! Charlie will have some of his own recruits next year and he'll start turning it around. He inherited a MESS.

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Can't agree with you on that Butch. I really don't think he's that good of a coach. Not a big time coach...plus he has too many things going against him. Texas is not ready for a black coach and that's coming from a lot of fans and boosters. They made their opinions clear before they hired Charlie. Some of the blunders they made this year were high school mistakes. He's not a bad guy, he's just not the right man for the UT job. I graduated from there and worked in the weight room for Charlie Craven and Dana Leduc in the 70's and still have a lot of contact w/ex's and some insiders. You may be right Butch, time will tell I guess. powdr

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Originally Posted by mathman
Didn't Tressel have some NCAA problems?


Not sure about him, but he was coaching when Maurice claret showed his a$$.
Might be what you are thinking off.


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COLUMBUS, Ohio - In a sharply worded rebuke of Ohio State's Jim Tressel, the NCAA on Monday accused the 10-year coach with withholding information and lying to keep Buckeyes players on the field who had accepted improper benefits from the owner of a tattoo parlor.

In a "notice of allegations" sent to the school, the NCAA said Monday that the violations relating to the coach are considered "potential major violations."

Ohio State was not cited for the most serious of institutional breaches since Tressel hid information from his superiors for more than nine months. The university has 90 days to respond to the ruling body of college sports' request for information before a scheduled date before the NCAA's committee on infractions on Aug. 12 in Indianapolis.

In a 13-page indictment of Tressel's behavior, the NCAA alleged that Tressel had "permitted football student-athletes to participate in intercollegiate athletics while ineligible." It also said he "failed to deport himself ... (with) honesty and integrity" and said he was lying when he filled out a compliance form in September which said he had no knowledge of any NCAA violations by any of his players.

Athletic director Gene Smith said he would have "no comments until the case is resolved." The university issued a statement that the allegations were consistent with what it had already self-reported to the NCAA on March 8.

Tressel's troubles began with an April 2, 2010, email from Columbus lawyer Christopher Cicero. Cicero, a former Ohio State walk-on player, informed Tressel that a federal agency had raided the house of tattoo-shop owner Eddie Rife and discovered a multitude of autographed Ohio State jerseys, cleats, pants and helmets, Big Ten championship rings and the "gold pants" trinkets given to Buckeyes players for beating archrival Michigan.

Tressel responded, "I will get on it ASAP."

Yet he did not notify Smith or Ohio State President E. Gordon Gee, anyone else in the athletic department, the NCAA compliance department, or anyone in the university's legal department. Instead, he forwarded the email to Jeannette, Pa., businessman Ted Sarniak, a friend and mentor to star quarterback Terrelle Pryor, who was subsequently discovered to be one of the players involved with Rife.

The Columbus Dispatch reported Monday that Tressel went on to exchange at least 12 emails with Cicero, and also had numerous lengthy telephone conversations with Sarniak over the weeks and months ahead. Tressel still did not tell any of his superiors, anyone at the NCAA or his own compliance or legal departments.

In September of 2010, Tressel even signed a mandatory and rather routine Ohio State compliance form which clearly and simply asks if he the coach has knowledge of any NCAA violations. By signing and dating it, he said that he did not.

The U.S. Attorney contacted Ohio State in December to notify the university that it had come across the memorabilia. That prompted a cursory investigation — Smith conceded to The Associated Press last week that the effort was rushed — that did not turn up the telltale emails between Cicero and Tressel but did uncover the players' involvement with Rife. After consulting with the NCAA and the Big Ten, Pryor and four other top players were handed five-game suspensions — curiously not including the next game, the Sugar Bowl, but beginning with the first five games of the 2011 season.

Tressel was asked at a news conference if the players knew they were doing something wrong.

"I suppose that would be something rattling around inside the head of each of them individually," he said. "We all have a little sensor within us, 'Well, I'm not sure if I should be doing this."'

At the same time he said that, Tressel later admitted he was covering up his own knowledge of the players' violations.

The NCAA and Ohio State say the case against the players is closed.

It was only when Ohio State began appealing the players' suspensions that it uncovered the emails, leading to Tressel ultimately receiving a five-game suspension and a $250,000 fine. Smith said last week that the fine given to Tressel — who makes around $3.5 million a year — would not cover Ohio State's costs of the investigation.

Tressel has a record of 106-22 at Ohio State and won the 2002 national championship, the Buckeyes' first in 34 years. His team went 12-1 last season, including the 31-26 win over Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl.

The NCAA could accept Ohio State's suggestion of sanctions — the five-game suspension and the fine — or could levy much more severe penalties. Since the NCAA says that Tressel knowingly used ineligible players, it would seem probable that the 2010 regular season would be vacated — ending the Buckeyes' run of Big Ten titles at six in a row. The NCAA could also come down hard on Tressel, compelling Ohio State to add to Tressel's suspension or issue sanctions leading to the school firing him.

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Originally Posted by RNF
The man is 110 & 32 in 11 years and they are wanting to get rid of him.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/14204487/good-possibility-lsu-tigers-buy-les-miles-contract-source


THe University of Tennessee did almost the same trick with Phil Fulmer.

At the time, he had one of the best winning percentages in College Football.

If LSU does it, they will regret it.


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that's almost 3 losses per year. Hardly good enough. Dump the bum.

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By the way, if Tennessee still has two nickels to rub together, they ought to let Butch Jones go and hire Miles. SC could then hire Jones.

That would be a better fit for both those coaches.


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Originally Posted by mathman
Didn't Tressel have some NCAA problems?
He did and that's why Urban Myer is at OSU. Players were trading bowl rings and other gifts for tatoos. That's against NCAA rules. He knew it, didn't report it and tried to cover it up some. IMO, not a big deal, but as with many things, the cover up is worse than the crime.

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Should have kept reading before I posted...

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Originally Posted by BFD
that's almost 3 losses per year. Hardly good enough. Dump the bum.


Throw a National Championship in with that and it don't look to bad.


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marginal. very marginal. should have a national champ 3 times by now.

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