Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns I don't care about 50 yd accuracy!

If one is going to carry a gun, one should be proficient with it. Seems pretty logical to me.

Are you talking to me? I've got a target in my back yard about a hundred yards from where I sit. Set up is what prevents me from doing more. Lots goes into practice that ain't practice. I keep my guns clean and ready. I've got some calls to make and some stuff to do pretty quickly, or I could be out shooting right now...Of course I'd have to wade through mud to do it. My "range" isn't inside, heated, a/c'ed, etc.

I'm probably coming off as griping about cops getting to shoot. Cops shooting a lot is a good thing as long as they're a good cop. I was just explaining some of the aspects of average guys' and their "training" and "practice" and why it differs from somebody who is a professional.

You've been on this forum long enough to know logic rarely if ever enters into the equation.

Sure had that "tone". Maybe a failed attempt at snarky/smarmy......Either way, the 50 round course meets your mere mortal criteria.

Call 911 wave goodbye to the dog.

Shoot the pit...and hope the bullet over penetrates.

Where did the dog get a green truck?

50 yards......close the distance enough that you can hand him gas money for carrying the dog off?

i've always felt that respectable handgun accuracy at 50 yards was a good skill to have. when i'm out at the range and shooting various stagings at closer ranges, i usually conclude by shooting at 50 yards--both supported and unsupported. targets are either paper plates, steel, or milk jugs.

in general however, i place most emphasis on 25 yards and under. back in 1988, i designed a target and guidelines for this exercise that other shooters dubbed "Jerry's Standard" to sharpen skills with--and to use scores from each session as a "benchmark" for reference. any sidearm will work, and it was deliberately designed to be compatible with 5-shot snub revolvers so often carried for self defense. (i'll note that .22 rimfires are great for getting one's feet wet in this type of shooting).

the target is made from butcher wrap, which comes in rolls 18 inches wide. cut a piece off the roll that is 30 inches long. you work on the side of the paper that is not waxed. using a pencil, a yardstick, and a scissors, make a target with the dimensions as shown below. note that the red lines are part of the directions in how to make the target--nothing more. when the target is finished, you will have a silhouette sporting a long, narrow rectangle, and a "u" shape around the rectangle. these lines are very lightly drawn in pencil, so they are barely visible. once you have one made, you can use it as a pattern for the others. my wife and i make a couple dozen of these at a time on the kitchen table. (hope my hasty measurements were all correct).





to shoot the Standard:


from the "low ready position" at the beep, or a partner's signal:


5 shots at 25 yards in 5 seconds or less;

5 shots at 20 yards in 4 seconds or less;

5 shots at 15 yards in 3 seconds or less;

5 shots at 10 yards in 3 seconds or less, firing with weak hand;

score is 5 points in the inner rectangle; 3 points in the section immediately outside that inner rectangle; 1 point for anything outside of the previous two areas. if a round breaks a line, you get the higher point value. total points are 100, for a perfect score of 100%.


(note: if you want to fire these from a draw, lengthen each time given above by one second--ie., 5 seconds at the 25 yard line changes to 6 seconds).


this target is designed to assist one in acquiring CNS hits. the Standard covers many desirable skills, such as target acquisition, precision at longer ranges, shot placement (most fire somewhat low their first time, hitting at or below the diaphram), etc., etc.

over the past 27 years of watching a cross section of various shooters perform this course of fire, some things i've noted:

most shoot too fast, doing poorly in shot placement;

most score below 50%;

most shots fall far too low;

often, shots fall to the side of center;


shooting the Standard will test your mettle, and it took a lot of effort for me to push my scores into the mid to upper 90's using a self defense rig, such as a Hk P7, Sig P226, Hk USP in 9 mm, Colt Commander in 9 mm, etc...

no, it's not a "perfect" exercise--there is no "THIS IS THE WAY", but it will help sharpen skillsets. as one gains some experience, it can be easily modified to meet your specific needs...

They WAY over-penetrate on Pits.




His bitch had connections...

LOL

Today's situation in San Bernadino is a good example of why it's good to be able to shoot at longer distances. Say you are in a position where you want to or NEED to stop an active shooter in a public environment.

As has been stated, "You get the fight you get.....not the fight you want!".

Walter Mitty is day dreaming again.

Talking about not shooting. Where's our monthly drills?

Dink

It's posted. Dot Torture.

The DT looks good.

Thanks Mav.




Dave

A FOS faceoff?

Gibson vs. Ayboob!

Who can fill the room most fastest?

TFF.



Clark

I missed it.

I have been spending to much time on the rifle range and haven't shot a pistol much lately. It should be ugly.....lol.

Dink

It's according to how good you are with a hand gun at 150 yards.

In Minnesota you might get charged with second degree murder.
They have an aversion to people acting out what they see in Chuck Norris movies.