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100 gr monos are great in that cartridge; they really do nicely at those speeds.
A 117 Horn will do nicely also I just figure the allure of the Weatherbys is speed for "shock & awe".
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I've owned two 257Wby rifles and I'm having another built. The only reason I chose the cart was to be able to hold on hair to 400. Here at home we hunt right of ways and due to terrain, 400ish is usually about the most range one can get(hills). You simply don't have time to range or spin turrets in these conditions. Heck, you don't even have time to touch the rifle some days. 100s at 3700 work really well for that style of hunting. They also work really well in open areas where you do have time to do all the fun stuff. Definitely not the best choice for long range wind bucking chores, but lightning for short range chores. Then again, there's always a 115 VLD at 3500.... loder
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I've owned two 257Wby rifles and I'm having another built. The only reason I chose the cart was to be able to hold on hair to 400. Here at home we hunt right of ways and due to terrain, 400ish is usually about the most range one can get(hills). You simply don't have time to range or spin turrets in these conditions. Heck, you don't even have time to touch the rifle some days. 100s at 3700 work really well for that style of hunting. They also work really well in open areas where you do have time to do all the fun stuff. Definitely not the best choice for long range wind bucking chores, but lightning for short range chores. Then again, there's always a 115 VLD at 3500....
Precisely the same reason I built mine - hair (or just a tish off) to 400. 3640 with the 100's out of a 26" tube just plain gets it done.
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It sure does Scott. Here's a short range example of 100TTSXs @ 3700MV: Boiler room hold to 350 and high shoulder at 400. Sure makes things easy.
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I've really wanted to try out the 100 Grain Swift S2 on game, but have yet to get a tube that likes them. Hoping the new Rock will like that pill. .429 is a bit more appealing than the .357 of the TTSX, but it really doesn't matter for short range as we're only talking .7" difference at 400. I'd still like to run them through some meat and see how they behave at that speed.
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I've really wanted to try out the 100 Grain Swift S2 on game, but have yet to get a tube that likes them. Hoping the new Rock will like that pill. .429 is a bit more appealing than the .357 of the TTSX, but it really doesn't matter for short range as we're only talking .7" difference at 400. I'd still like to run them through some meat and see how they behave at that speed.
Have you tried the 80gr TTSX? Not a whole lot less BC and you could problem get thing pretty close to 4000fps.
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The only reason I chose the cart was to be able to hold on hair to 400. Here at home we hunt right of ways and due to terrain, 400ish is usually about the most range one can get(hills).
You simply don't have time to range or spin turrets in these conditions. Heck, you don't even have time to touch the rifle some days.
Reloader 7 - I'm NOT being critical of others, just sincere. Some who participate on the 'fire' just don't understand the principle you're talking about. Even in pasture areas, semi-open terrain, we don't have time to-- 1. use binos 2. use rangefinder 3. READ trajectory card (on butt stock) 4. turn turrets 5. aim/shoot. I've 'never' used my rangefinder on game BEFORE shooting. I range FROM the animal or position BACK to where I was. Many Xs I range objects at different distances to get some idea how far they are BEFORE spotting game. I've been using MPBR with 270 and 7 RM for many years. At 400 yds I never hold OVER the back line. Jerry
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Very true Jerry. Different style of hunting for sure and one must adapt if they intend to be successful.
I hear ya on the binos as well. I carry mine every hunt for late or early scanning and to tell antler size in those low light conditions. They cost me a nice buck this season. He was gone before I could steady the rifle.
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Have you tried the 80gr TTSX? Not a whole lot less BC and you could problem get thing pretty close to 4000fps. No, I sure haven't, but I spoke to a guy that uses them in a Blaser 257Wby at 3800 and claims they are pure death even on large body MD and WT. He claimed to have killed many well over 200lb and had absolute faith in that pill.
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Many Xs I range objects at different distances to get some idea how far they are BEFORE spotting game.
Jerry, it's pretty rare for me to range a deer too (or have the opportunity to do so). I generally know distances based on landmarks etc. that I've ranged prior to a deer showing up. And all the ranging helps pass the time.
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This thread is of interest to me. I've not owned a quarter bore, but always thought the speed queen 257 would be a great choice for deer.
Recoil wise...rifle weight will play a role in this, but how well are you 257 Wby shooters able to stay on a deer and watch impact? Or at the least - be behind the scope after recoil?
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Very true Jerry. Different style of hunting for sure and one must adapt if they intend to be successful.
I hear ya on the binos as well. I carry mine every hunt for late or early scanning and to tell antler size in those low light conditions. They cost me a nice buck this season. He was gone before I could steady the rifle. Many Xs I range objects at different distances to get some idea how far they are BEFORE spotting game.
Jerry, it's pretty rare for me to range a deer too (or have the opportunity to do so). I generally know distances based on landmarks etc. that I've ranged prior to a deer showing up. And all the ranging helps pass the time. Thnx Guys Jerry
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This thread is of interest to me. I've not owned a quarter bore, but always thought the speed queen 257 would be a great choice for deer.
Recoil wise...rifle weight will play a role in this, but how well are you 257 Wby shooters able to stay on a deer and watch impact? Or at the least - be behind the scope after recoil?
As you mentioned, it obviously has to do with rifle weight. One of my previous 257s was a heavy LSS with a ZC 4.5-14x44 in DDs. That rifle had a really thick Super Cell recoil pad and was an absolute pu$$y cat recoil wise. I wouldn't say I could stay on target for hits like a heavy varmint setup or moderate cart that's braked, but it had recoil that seemed along the lines of a 25-06 or light weight 243 to me. My other 257 was much lighter and had sharper recoil similar to a 8lb 30-06 or 7RM.
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Thanks reloader. This would be a wood and blued gun, tripping the scales at 9+ pounds.
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That about covers all the hunting I do near my home
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I have a Rem 700 in 257 wby loaded with 100 gr TTSX's and 75 - 76 gr of Ramshot Magnum. I use it on wild pigs and they work great.
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I have been using 70 grains of IMR 7828 since 1984 when introduced, behind a Sierra 117 grain Pro Hunter. Super accurate and deadly. I have a 17 3/4" Pronghorn hanging on the wall from this load.
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On an interesting note, I just went to Barnes Bullets website, and looked at their updated reload data on the 257 weatherby, and it looks like on the data, they have backed off significantly on load data maximum's from their printed number 4 reload Book. AS an example, on Magnum, now they list 73.5 as the max load.
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Also note that in their current data, they list a max. load for RL22 and the 100 gr. TSX at 69 grains.
Myself, and I suspect many others who shoot the .257 Wby, have been loading 72 gr. for years, with success.
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Now you guys have me thinking....once in a while I have an opportunity to get a shot at a wolf without time for ranging etc.....I've never even seen 257 Weatherby that I remember. That Ruger #1 seems like it would be handy in the truck....good winter thoughts.
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