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I built a 340 Wby with a Schneider barrel. If you are stuck on a Remington action, there is not a lot of room for those RUM cases. I modified a Sako Finnbear action and I can load 3.85" rounds into my magazine. I have a reamer that is throated for 300 grain Sierras if you want to borrow it. I get 3000 fps easy with both Magpro and R17 using 250 grain Berger OTMs. I can't shoot the 300s since my barrel is a 12 twist. If I had to do it again , I would get a 10 twist. I did the 12 as I never intended it to be a long range rifle but wanted the reamer set up so I could with a different barrel and stock. Mine weighs 8# without a scope. I shoot it with no sissy pad and I won't own a muzzle brake. If it had a 2" longer barrel that was heavier you could get it to 10# pretty easy. It would be a pussy cat then! A Rem 700 action can easily accept a 3.9" loaded length with Seekins detachable box magazine.
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I built a 340 Wby with a Schneider barrel. If you are stuck on a Remington action, there is not a lot of room for those RUM cases. I modified a Sako Finnbear action and I can load 3.85" rounds into my magazine. I have a reamer that is throated for 300 grain Sierras if you want to borrow it. I get 3000 fps easy with both Magpro and R17 using 250 grain Berger OTMs. I can't shoot the 300s since my barrel is a 12 twist. If I had to do it again , I would get a 10 twist. I did the 12 as I never intended it to be a long range rifle but wanted the reamer set up so I could with a different barrel and stock. Mine weighs 8# without a scope. I shoot it with no sissy pad and I won't own a muzzle brake. If it had a 2" longer barrel that was heavier you could get it to 10# pretty easy. It would be a pussy cat then! Likewise, if you want to borrow a 7 WSM OR .223AI reamer & gauges.... Maybe it's dumb to be hung up on a M700 action. It's just.... well, you know. Much simpler.
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A Wyatt's gives 3.82" COAL..... Is that sufficient?
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Model 700 is much simpler to build a big 338 on and very simple to increase the bolt throw length which is why i went with the 700 for my 338 Lapua.
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A Wyatt's gives 3.82" COAL..... Is that sufficient? You could certainly go with a Wyatt. I wanted to seat the 300 SMK out far enough to allow the boatail to be located at the shoulder neck junction in order to avoid the need to turn necks because of the doughnut formed there by resizing. Without seating far enough to get the boatail in this location uneven neck tension is created unless one turns the necks. I wanted it simple but effective.
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Could jut buy this one and start shooting Mike
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Mike, too easy! That's a cool rifle. I like the XCR coating. I'd be concerned it wouldn't shoot to the standard that a LR rifle needs to; I mean it might, but it might not. John, the rifle Mike linked to, above, is a factory Rem Lapua with a detachable magazine in a B&C Tactical stock. Don't know if it's a Seekins... So, when using a box magazine with a M700, does the mag latch onto the action somehow or does it just latch into the stock?
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Not sure which detachable box magazine Remington is using, The Seekins latches in the Seekins bottom metal, not the stock.
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Jeff if I had the skill and tools I wouldn't buy one either Mike
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Cant believe you people are interested in coal with Wyatts or Seekins mag boxs....MAN up shoot a single shot and make the first shot count. Most of my LONG RANGE rifles are single shot bolt action, never felt at a disadvantage to someone who had to have longest mag box on planet
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Cant believe you people are interested in coal with Wyatts or Seekins mag boxs....MAN up shoot a single shot and make the first shot count. Most of my LONG RANGE rifles are single shot bolt action, never felt at a disadvantage to someone who had to have longest mag box on planet I never felt at a disadvantage by having a repeater either. Not sure how you come up with most long range rifles are single shots since a lot of magazine options are sold and available. I have nothing against a single shot
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My 340 Wby was never intended to be a long range rifle, it was intended to be a heavy hitting 500 yard elk rifle. I bought a bunch of Norma factory ammo loaded with 250 grain Woodleighs and they were slightly too long for my magazine. I took the magazine, cut it apart, TIG welded it back together with a spacer and then opened up both ends of the action as much as I dared to give me max operating length. IF I were starting out to build a big 33 from scratch for a DEDICATED long range rig I would use one of the custom actions that are built a little longer so that I wasn't handicapped from the onset. I would use either the 338 Edge or 340 Wby. I can't justify the $2.50 a pop brass for the Lapua when it isn't any faster. I met a guy that was really into long range bear hunting and he had Kirby Allen build him a 338 Edge with a 30" barrel. It was a #7 or so fluted barrel with an A5 stock. It weighed like 14 lbs. I wouldn't carry that hunting. He was shooting 300 grain Bergers at like 2900 if I recall. It was a real hammer. He had killed deer to 1200 yards and bears to 1050. There is a lot to be said about the simplicity of the 340 Wby. Brass is of excellent quality and fairly easy to come by. It uses a normal magnum bolt face. No reason you can't make a 338-375 Ruger or whatever they are called. Probably has the same capacity and would fit the magazine a lot better too.
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If your buddy was getting 2900 FPS with a 338 Edge and 300 trainers then he was leaning on it rather heavy. Shawn Carlock came up with the Edge, he also built my 338 Lapua. Shawn's load with a 300 SMK is 92 grains of H-1000, that is the same load that I shoot in my Lapua.
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Plenty of these rifles are single shots and for good reason. Less cost, less fuss about COAL and more receiver to stock engagement.
My own 338 is built on an short action single shot. It sounds crazy? But with just an small amount of use I'm not handicapped for follow ups. I just wanted the most rigid and least costly, simpliest path. Single shots aren't for everyone's liking but it can be an reasonable alternative and they can have advantages.
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That's interesting, oldpine. I see your point for sure. What chambering did you go with?
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This thread brings to mind the age old question: "How many pages does it take before a retard picks a headstamp?"
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Headlamps matter more than headstamps.
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Petzl by a mile.
Hint.
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This thread brings to mind the age old question: "How many pages does it take before a retard picks a headstamp?"
Dave As long as the headstamp matches the engraving on the barrel. Just sayin...
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Nobody said I was perfect.
Except me.
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