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Travis,
Contrary to popular belief, everybody on the Campfire has made mistakes at the loading bench, shooting range and in the field. Your mistake was doing it in front of your good friend Shrapnel.
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Travis,
Contrary to popular belief, everybody on the Campfire has made mistakes at the loading bench, shooting range and in the field. Your mistake was doing it in front of your good friend Shrapnel. Deflave has just been owned!!!!
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Trav, First, <snork>........ Second, GFY and the bloated liver you rode in on you snarky little bitch...... Third, current estimate is 11-12 pages but I reserve the right to change my retarded mind if info comes in that warrants further retarded exploration. 
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Travis,
Contrary to popular belief, everybody on the Campfire has made mistakes at the loading bench, shooting range and in the field. Your mistake was doing it in front of your good friend Shrapnel. He didn't do a very good job of keeping it on the down-low. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Trav, First, <snork>........ Second, GFY and the bloated liver you rode in on you snarky little bitch...... Third, current estimate is 11-12 pages but I reserve the right to change my retarded mind if info comes in that warrants further retarded exploration. Here's to hoping Santa brought you a double-digit IQ. Finger's crossed. 'Flave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Travis,
Contrary to popular belief, everybody on the Campfire has made mistakes at the loading bench, shooting range and in the field. Your mistake was doing it in front of your good friend Shrapnel. Deflave has just been owned!!!! I don't you think understand the term. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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If your buddy was getting 2900 FPS with a 338 Edge and 300 trainers then he was leaning on it rather heavy. Shawn Carlock came up with the Edge, he also built my 338 Lapua. Shawn's load with a 300 SMK is 92 grains of H-1000, that is the same load that I shoot in my Lapua.
Not my buddy, but rather a guy that was invited to present out our predator club monthly meeting. Maybe the barrel was 32" long- it was freaking long! I could be misquoting him too. What would be a reasonable velocity for a 338 Edge with a 30" barrel. I get 3000 with 26" and the 250. I figure I could get 2800 with the 300 but maybe closer to 2700. I have never fired one as I am pretty sure the 12 twist won't get the job done. Shawn's load with a 300 SMK is 92 grains of H-1000, that is the same load that I shoot in my Lapua.
Berger data has max load at 84.5 grains @ 2600 fps using a 26" barrel. 92 grains seems like a huge jump!
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I have a 30" barrel and I get exactly 2790 FPS, so 2800 plus is a good velocity with 300 grain SMK. I seat the bullet out to 3.860 inches. 2900 plus is 338/378 speeds and that case holds a good bit more powder.. Just my experience.
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I get a bullet with .754 bc moving 2900 fps out of a 25" barrel and using 70 grains of powder. No brake required as recoil is very moderate from a 9 pound all up rig.
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The CENTER will hold.
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i purchased a brand new 338 lapua weatherby accumark and it shot very crappy called weatherby warranty was not that good . so what I did had straight line machine who builds many national champion 1000 yard bench guns now and had owner greg walstrom but a new bonx barrel on it ,now the rifle which is still a 338 lapua after rebedding and this new bonx barrel shoots great. I do have a 8-32x56 niteforce on this gun and always use lapua brass with my handloads.i do have a 28 inch barrel on this rifle. 338 lapua is easy to find brass or ammo for and It`s just as good as the rest of the 33`s too.
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Ordering some of those 195's as soon as I get the family home without dumping a transmission or something equally catastrophic <g>.... I spec'd my 7 WSM @ a 9 twist on the notion that that'd be "plenty for even up to 180's!"........ d'oh. But that should spin the 195's ok according to Berger.
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Ordering some of those 195's as soon as I get the family home without dumping a transmission or something equally catastrophic <g>.... I spec'd my 7 WSM @ a 9 twist on the notion that that'd be "plenty for even up to 180's!"........ d'oh. But that should spin the 195's ok according to Berger. Question being is your wsm throated for 195's?
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No.... they didn't even exist when I was chambering it, to my knowledge. Google says, they are a very recent thing. That's about all I know about 'em. Is that correct?
I'm not recutting the throat regardless. That rifle shoots 162's absolutely lights out and I built it for hunting blacktail in the clearcuts on the wet side of the Cascades, high desert mule deer, and antelope. The 195 sounds fun but I'm not screwing with a good thing to pick up a minuscule amount less drift..... If my rifle doesn't get along with them, I'm booting the bullet, not the rifle <g>.
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i purchased a brand new 338 lapua weatherby accumark and it shot very crappy called weatherby warranty was not that good . so what I did had straight line machine who builds many national champion 1000 yard bench guns now and had owner greg walstrom but a new bonx barrel on it ,now the rifle which is still a 338 lapua after rebedding and this new bonx barrel shoots great. I do have a 8-32x56 niteforce on this gun and always use lapua brass with my handloads.i do have a 28 inch barrel on this rifle. 338 lapua is easy to find brass or ammo for and It`s just as good as the rest of the 33`s too. Tough to argue with that. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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No.... they didn't even exist when I was chambering it, to my knowledge. Google says, they are a very recent thing. That's about all I know about 'em. Is that correct?
I'm not recutting the throat regardless. That rifle shoots 162's absolutely lights out and I built it for hunting blacktail in the clearcuts on the wet side of the Cascades, high desert mule deer, and antelope. The 195 sounds fun but I'm not screwing with a good thing to pick up a minuscule amount less drift..... If my rifle doesn't get along with them, I'm booting the bullet, not the rifle <g>. I'm getting an easy 2800fps out of my Kimber 7WSM, despite the throat length...
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That's good to know, Jordan. Excited to try them. That rifle truly bugholes several loads; if she cooperates with the 195's, well, there's not one bad thing about THAT!
Except for the approx (900) 162's on my shelf........ haha.....
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The 338/378 holds more powder and is faster than the 338 Lapua, 338 Edge or 338 RUM the latter 3 are ballistic all equal.
I choose the Lapua because the 338 Lapua brand brass is the very best available. People complain about the cost, but one doesn't lose half the cases to sorting out the best ones from the rest. The Lapua brass is 4000 bar strong than needed according to Lapua.
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i purchased a brand new 338 lapua weatherby accumark and it shot very crappy called weatherby warranty was not that good . so what I did had straight line machine who builds many national champion 1000 yard bench guns now and had owner greg walstrom but a new bonx barrel on it ,now the rifle which is still a 338 lapua after rebedding and this new bonx barrel shoots great. I do have a 8-32x56 niteforce on this gun and always use lapua brass with my handloads.i do have a 28 inch barrel on this rifle. 338 lapua is easy to find brass or ammo for and It`s just as good as the rest of the 33`s too. Tough to argue with that. Dave Dying here....
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