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Guessin is so silly.

Might want to actually read the posts in the thread and not come off like a retard.

Just sayin.

I think a day or two on the range with either of them would be enlightening.

Yep, Touche!...//... What I should have said was:

"BFD! Magdood. I couldn't care less what he has done shooting wise. From the majority of the posts I have seen of JB's he brings little to the discussion other than how f'ing great he is and not much else. This thread is a perfect example.

JBurns missed an opportunity that most professionals would have jumped at by getting the details from Formidilosus on what the problems were with the Luepold scopes and then goose Leupold to rectify the problem since he's a dealer. He could have helped fix a problem which would make for a better product for everyone, make a valuable contact, and increased his credentials here on the forums which in turn would have helped his business.

For long range shooting and glass, I'll take advice from Formidilosus any day of the week. If I want a good laugh from an arrogant prick I'll just dial Johnny B. good and grab the jiffy pop."

Agreed. I'd learn a lot from both. One would teach me how to shoot, the other would teach me how great his shyte is.

John knows how to shoot. Either one or two years ago a group of long-range shooters gathered in Montana I believe. Among them was John Burns. He's pictured with a 3' round steel plate (the picture was posted on this board). He hit it 3 out of 3 times at 1760 yards, with a cross wind that was blowing (I may have this wrong) a steady 30 mph. He's been more than willing to answer any question I asked him for the entire time he's been on this board. Stick took an instant dislike to John and began to attack him in his own unique way, which of course attracted the Stickophants to join in and pile up on John.

However, despite the barbs slung his way you can't say John isn't one of the best marksmen you've seen. Are some better? I don't know. I'm not good enough to criticize anyone's shooting skills. I know Stick is damned good. A while back, after getting some information on his shooting habits from people who know him, I estimated that he's very likely shot over a million rounds in the last 30 years. He routinely lays out a dozen rifles he's been shooting that day. He shoots them all, testing and finding the best loads, etc. His photos have more rifles in them than I own.

But, back to John; hitting a 3' round steel plate, 3 times out of 3 shots at 1760 yards in a high crosswind ain't luck and John doesn't guess either. He doesn't receive the credit he deserves as a marksman because some posters had a problem with the shooting system he was selling. If you don't like his rifle, scope and custom loaded ammunition tailored to that rifle, don't buy it.

Yessir, I just sit here in Mom's basement and watch videos of HALO jumps.

Them in the know play a bit different game.

He hit it 3 out of 3 times at 1760 yards, with a cross wind that was blowing (I may have this wrong)....

Perhaps you can point out where John Burns posted erroneous information. I don't believe he did, but I'd like to see you try and interpret one of his posts that you find wrong.

Wow! I waded through all these pages of bickering, trying to gleen which SS, etc to maybe top a LR play rig. While I don't know any of you from Adam's housecat, now we've got someone requesting photos and personal information, along with equipment details directly related to TTPs, of probable special operations personnel, on an open internet forum. So, instead of worrying about a scope, I'm head-scratching over if this JB cat's comments need forwarding to an SSO, as a potential eliciting attempt?

Anyhow, it'd be nice to get info w/o having to be subjected to the constant pecker measuring, like its a gay stripper bar up in here.

FWIW, I'm not sure what replaced them, but I know all of the last batch of NF5-25x56 got sent back to drmo, from at least one entire SF group. There's also a HUGE mix of optics in use at that level AND commander's exceptions to policy for damned near anything a team guy feels he needs for mission.

I've had great success with the straight 6X with milquad and mil turrets.

Well over 1,000 rounds at this point on my .308. Can't find anything wrong with it.



Travis

I've had great success with the straight 6X with milquad and mil turrets.

Well over 1,000 rounds at this point on my .308. Can't find anything wrong with it.



Travis

I've had great success with the straight 6X with milquad and mil turrets.

Well over 1,000 rounds at this point on my .308. Can't find anything wrong with it.



Travis

Yes, you do.

Then post the correct information.

Does anyone here actually have a broken Leupold.... currently?

If so..... why not ship it to a couple other guys here for verification of its phuqedupedness?

Ohhhhhh..... that's right..... you already sent it back for repair..... "Got it back in two weeks".....

I'd like to buy the next "titis-up" or "poor tracking" Leupold that you're getting ready to send back..... just to see WTF.

Travis, would you consider that particular scope OK for hunting in big timber? I have a rifle I like to take both the range and hunt with. My only concern is if the reticle is heavy enough for 48 year old reasonable good eyes in the big woods at near dark.