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That looks like a 300 Dakota! I haven't really compare the two but looks very similar. I like it!
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Boy, that looks like a pretty bad dude. That would make a heck of a bean field rifle.
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I think I'd rather have one than a Weatherby, if only because of no belt.
The factory ammo is 210g @ 3000fps with a 24" barrel. That puts it up there with a RUM if using Nosler load data.
No need for one here, though.
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I don't have any need for one either, if I lived somewhere I could stretch rifles out it might be more interesting.
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Overbore and kicks like a mule.
Best one is the .300 Win. Mag.
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1. The capacity to launch 210 grain bullets at 3,000 fps? Well, they don't mention the barrel length and gun manufacturers are notorious for their velocity optimism.
2. It headspaces on the shoulder. Big deal. So do all the belted bottle necked cartridges excepted those with the long taper such as the 375 H&H Magnum.
3. Fittng in a standard length action is good but I submit that the 300 Winchester Magnum is still a better choice due to the better availability of brass and cartridges. Besides, most riflemen can't handle or don't like the recoil of even the 300 Winchester Magnum and they're not going to want more.
4. A more efficient powder column? Really? Did they learn something new about pi? Is their brass special somehow enhancing the powder's burning characteristics?
But, if you want something no one else has and doesn't worry about the next ammo/reloading component sell out thanks to the democrats, by all means get one.
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I think I'd rather have one than a Weatherby, if only because of no belt.
The factory ammo is 210g @ 3000fps with a 24" barrel. That puts it up there with a RUM if using Nosler load data.
No need for one here, though. I've found the best way to deal with the belt is to ignore it.
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Nice round, but I already have a RUM and a Win mag in that caliber. Happy as a puppy with two peters already.
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I think I'd rather have one than a Weatherby, if only because of no belt.
The factory ammo is 210g @ 3000fps with a 24" barrel. That puts it up there with a RUM if using Nosler load data.
No need for one here, though. I've found the best way to deal with the belt is to ignore it. Pretty much what I do. Still, it is a completely unnecessary anachronism and from an eye appeal standpoint I prefer cartridges without them. If I was going to buy a super-mag .300, which is quite unlikely, my preference would be for it to have a Nosler .30 chamber.
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Overbore and kicks like a mule.
Best one is the .300 Win. Mag. I'd do a 300 WSM over a 300 WM.
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Overbore and kicks like a mule.
Best one is the .300 Win. Mag. I'd do a 300 WSM over a 300 WM. Yep
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Overbore and kicks like a mule.
Best one is the .300 Win. Mag. I'd do a 300 WSM over a 300 WM. Yep Nope. 
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Overbore and kicks like a mule.
Best one is the .300 Win. Mag. I'd do a 300 WSM over a 300 WM. Nope. NOPE II. I really can't wrap my head around the "no belt" thing. My first mag rifle was a 300 WM @78-79 and have used 'belted' mags ever since. I 'ain't never' had a single problem from a belted mag case. Jerry
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I don't get the 'no belt' sentiments either. They are an absolute non issue. I have had half a dozen belt-cartridge chambered rifles and not once has the belt caused me any grief with feeding or reloading.
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I don't get the 'no belt' sentiments either. They are an absolute non issue. Absolutely correct. Maybe ? some people like the 'short-fat' look? Personally I like the longer sleeker looking cartridges. So far I haven't seen a pic of the 30 Nos so I have no opinion about it. My 300 WM is capable of MORE than I have to do now so I'm not looking to better its performance. (besides I have an 8 mm Rem Mag) Jerry
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It's not the belt, it's the short action.
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My beef with belted cartridges isn't the belt, it's the overly large clearance between the shoulder of new brass and the typical belted cartridge chamber.
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It's not the belt, it's the short action. The 300 Win Mag uses the same action length. What am I missing? That said the 30 Nosler sounds like a great cartridge. A slightly shorter 300 RUM maybe?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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