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Where did you get this from?

Agreed.

These 11th century animals will ALWAYS be as they've always been. It's our governments that are really to blame for not only exposing us to their threat, but berating anyone who calls them on it, and aggressively trying to disarm us at the same time.

It's the NWO power brokers who are the real threat. They've got the finances, connections, and brains to control nations from the inside. I'm sure it's old news to many, but we should all educate ourselves about the U.N.'s Agenda 21

I've tried to ignore it as a tinfoil conspiracy, but I'm convinced that it exists, and the "green movement," "sustainability," "climate change," and all this other BS labeled as "smart" is being used as mechanisms in its implementation..........the redistribution of resources, (and power, wealth, prosperity) on a global level. The US Constitution is one of the only things standing in the way of the United Nations, because it gives sovereignty to the world's strongest nation. Thus the efforts to disarmed, and diluted with millions of people who hate America.

There's a lot of disjointed information out there, and unfortunately Alex Jones will pop up a lot in your searches. But if you read a few articles, and watch some video presentations, you'll soon seen the common message............and it's scary. While the citizens of most first world countries might still care about their individual freedoms (in spite of efforts to dumb-down their education of such freedoms), their leaders do NOT, and are part of a larger plan.

Cheers

And based on those numbers, if 10% are "radicals", which our government admits to, then we would have 7.1 million terrorists/extremists in our country.


Yeah nothing to worry about there. What a fricken dipsshit you are. Your line of thinking is what keeps the muslim train running.


Clyde

He probably watched a youtube video from the history channel or something.

Well played Sir.

A quick search on 'mohammad caravan raid' will bring up pages of evidence to show what Mohammad was.

Not to mention he grew up in a Bedouin tribe. I'm reasonably certain they weren't a bunch of peacenik hippies.

The biggest threat is isn't being discussed is how many of these "civilized" Muslims will side with their religion when the crap hits the fan caused by their radical friends. All it takes is a small fraction of them to start chaos. Then the "moderates" will have to decide between civil society and their religion. My bet is that that small fraction will turn into about 100 million when things get ugly.

In any guerilla war type scenario there is always the hardcore guys who provide most of the fighters, to support them there is the auxiliary who live what appear to be normal lives while providing support to the fighters with food,shelter, transportation etc. A lot of the so called moderates will be doing just that.

70 million in Europe. Not the US.

Not if the democrat politicians have anything to say about it.

Sooo.... 7 million terrorists is an "ok" amount? Small potatoes?



Clyde

LOL, maybe he did. I would like to know which one. I'm willing to examine my beliefs.

I took your advice and did a quick search. This is what I looked at so far. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caravan_raids

According to this Mohammed and his followers did raid the caravans of their enemies. It doesn't say wether or not this is was what started the war. It does say that when Mohammed and his followers were driven from Mecca all their wealth was taken by the Arab pagans. Apparently this was part of their justification for the raids. It also sounds like it was just part of the ongoing war.

Another thing I found interesting was the link down the page to the "people of the book." If you follow that link you can read about it. Apparently it refers to the Christians and Jews, the people that worship the same God as the muslims. According to this they believed that some of these were good people who followed God and many had strayed. The same thing could probably be said about the Muslims.

Admittedly, this all comes from Wikipedia for what's that worth, probably at least as much as some of the things I read on the Campfire.

Here is an older article on churches in Saudi Arabia. The guy who wrote it seems to be fairly unbiased if you read some of his other articles.

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2008/03/churches-in-saudi-arabia

I'm biased, but I've spent some time overseas and had a bunch of friends wounded or killed by them. I can't think of any good reason to allow them in the US.

Interesting article. One of the few Muslims I have known was a physician assistant student from Somalia that I worked with. He told me that the Saudi's and their brand of Islam are not well liked in much of the Muslim world. I can believe it.

There's your problem. If you think the Muslims have the same god as the Jews & Christians, you're sadly uninformed about who God is. God can't be further separated from Allah. Their natures, their methods of salvation, are completely opposite.

Do you mean that they worship a different God, or that their understanding of him is flawed? I think Muslims believe they worship the same God that we do, but that they understand him better than we do. I don't agree with them, but I don't hate them. I really want to know what you think.

Do you believe & agree with their belief, that as an infidel, you should either be killed or enslaved?

Do you really believe & think that if you were living in a Moslem ruled country that you would be allowed to live freely as you do now & to worship as you please?

Do you believe that they want to rape your daughters & wife & kill you & you sons?

If you believe(d) any of the above, would you hate them then? Would you be willing to defend your self against them.

I really want to know what you think.

MM

That's a good question. I don't know how freely I would I be able to practice my religion in a Muslim country. With the way world has gotten lately, I'll bet things have just gotten worse. Quite frankly, I worry about how freely I will be able to practice my religion in this country.

As for killing and enslaving infidels I'm not convinced that is necessarily part of Islam. I am sure that there are some Muslims who believe it is though. I'll bet the true story is a lot more complicated.

I know for a fact that there is no shortage of rapists or murderers in this country. I know there are a lot of good people too. I'll bet there are some good muslims too.

I mentioned about the Somali student I worked with. He wasn't the best student, but he seemed like a nice enough guy. I certainly never saw a good reason to kill him, or even deport him. He did try to convert me to Islam though. He told me I could have four wives. That was enough to convince me it was a bad idea. Not to mention Ramadan. He couldn't eat or drink from sunup to sundown. In northern Minnesota in the summer that is a long time. He almost fainted. As a matter of fact, I think he did collapse once.