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Well, Christie just dropped out That's a plus for Trump.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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What does hard conservatism really gain us? Please explain how in today's political climate a hard right winger gets any traction, once elected?
Gay rights
abortion
education system
welfare/entitlements
etc.
How does a conservative actually move the needle on those issues in the here and now? I just don't see it, even though I am a conservative my practical side doesn't see any real conservative actions happening in congress. All a conservative can do is stall, not make headway, imo. +1 They sound like paultards. And there even less effective... dave
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Don't worry Pat,we are gonna start winning again,we are gonna win so much we'll be sick of winning
It's all good remain calm no worries
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Well, Christie just dropped out That's a plus for Trump. Would have been nice to see Christie chew on Rubio again. dave
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Don't worry Pat,we are gonna start winning again,we are gonna win so much we'll be sick of winning
It's all good remain calm no worries That was very very close to being a Howard Dean moment.
Proud to be a true Sandlapper!!
Go Nats!!!!
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Well, Christie just dropped out That's a plus for Trump. Would have been nice to see Christie chew on Rubio again. dave Ewww that's gay
My dog is a member of the "Turd Like Clan"
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I for one would like to be sick of "winning"
At least he talks about winning.
None of the rest of them do.
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Don't worry Pat,we are gonna start winning again,we are gonna win so much we'll be sick of winning
It's all good remain calm no worries That was very very close to being a Howard Dean moment. No just doing my best Donald
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Trump won every single demographic in NH last night, by a hefty margin.
He's ahead by strong double-digits in SC.
Spend your time fighting over who will come in 2nd-5th in SC. It's the only relevant discussion now.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
William Arthur Ward
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No worries, just trying to do the right thing for the future. Unlike some, I really DO want to make America Great Again, instead of inflicting petty revenge on some politicians.
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Trump won every single demographic in NH last night, by a hefty margin.
Every family has one.
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Don't worry Pat,we are gonna start winning again,we are gonna win so much we'll be sick of winning
It's all good remain calm no worries That was very very close to being a Howard Dean moment. No just doing my best Donald ummm....I was referring to Donald's screaming about winning and going to SC for more winning. But you do a great Donald!! 
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Pat,
So your point is that voters in the south are actually the stupid ones, since they voted for a less than conservative candidate?
That the conservatives that sat it out in NY, MI, WI, MN, CA, NJ, ME, RI, OH, PA, OR, WA, CT etc are actually the ULTRA conservative wing of the Republican party, since they chose to not vote for the little less liberal candidate.
That's what you are selling Pat?
Who know, that the ENLIGHTENED, ULTRA CONSERVATIVE Republican's have been hiding out in NY, CA, MI, MN, CA etc etc.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Spend your time fighting over who will come in 2nd-5th in SC. It's the only relevant discussion now. Im reminded of Reagan. All the bed time for bonzo actor stuff. Time will tell. dave
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I know how I'm voting. Anybody undecided? My vote may count for the first time ever. I'm still watching and listening, but I'm pretty solid on Cruz...by the time we have our primary the herd should be thinned out considerably & as hard as it is for me to admit, there's a very real possibility that Cruz will no longer be in the race...
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People in the south haven't had any conservatives to vote for. The primary process has always starved them out before they get that far.
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Pat,
So your point is that voters in the south are actually the stupid ones, since they voted for a less than conservative candidate?
That the conservatives that sat it out in NY, MI, WI, MN, CA, NJ, ME, RI, OH, PA, OR, WA, CT etc are actually the ULTRA conservative wing of the Republican party, since they chose to not vote for the little less liberal candidate.
That's what you are selling Pat?
Yep, that's the pitch.
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I know how I'm voting. Anybody undecided? My vote may count for the first time ever. I'm still watching and listening, but I'm pretty solid on Cruz...by the time we have our primary the herd should be thinned out considerably & as hard as it is for me to admit, there's a very real possibility that Cruz will no longer be in the race... We'll be able to vote on Super Tuesday this time. In the past, there was never anybody worth voting for left that could win. It may not make a difference, but we'll see.
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So the ULTA CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS in 2012 were those in NY, CA, MN, WI, RI, NJ etc etc, since they KNEW to not vote for a little less liberal Romney.
The problem in 2012 is all the moderate Republicans in TEXAS, LA, AL, GA, MT etc that voted for Romney.
In short, the only way forward is for there to be an ULTRA Conservative that can pull out those millions of left coast and Yankee conservatives that have been staying at home.
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People in the south haven't had any conservatives to vote for. The primary process has always starved them out before they get that far. Have you and Curdog been sharing a drinking fountain?
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