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So its decided the barrel choice is 8" twist if possible? Yep, that's our collective decision. Now, to send a link to Hornady... DF
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I have a LH Hawkeye in 243 that I might look at re barreling to 22 CM. Thoughts?
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I'm confused as to the advantage of the whole family of .30 TC based cartridges over those from the 308 Win case.
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I'm confused as to the advantage of the whole family of .30 TC based cartridges over those from the 308 Win case. The way I understand it is although the capacity is about the same, the overall length of the brass is somewhat shorter and that allows for longer bullets to be seated out farther without exceeding the 2.8" length magazine.
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In short, SKOOKUM magazine fit.
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In short, SKOOKUM magazine fit. Yep. But, with a .22 CM, that may not be as critical as with the 6.5 CM. Those 6.5 bullets are a lot longer than even the longest .224's. I think the clincher for a .22 CM would be 8 twist, as we've discussed and the quality of OTC ammo, much like the 6.5 CM concept. It's the total package that sells, as I noted earlier. And, with the right rifles on dealer's shelves, I think it would go over well. As with most stuff, it's all about marketing. And, this round would be an easy one to tout, as those of us who shoot fast twist .224's already know. DF
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The fear of twist is great with many gun makers.
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The fear of twist is great with many gun makers. With a new round and new SAAMI specs, start with 8 twist like Nosler did with the 8 twist 26 Nosler and 9 twist 28 Nosler. That way, it's not like rolling out an 8 twist .22-250 with its long twist history and legacy. New round, new twist, new specs. Long, heavy for caliber projectiles will make it essentially a new round, so similar to the .22-250, yet so different... DF
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That's why it will never work, it makes sense.
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Lol....we said all this same chit in January.
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In short, SKOOKUM magazine fit. Laffin.....it seems some just like being long winded I guess. If a sentence will do no reason for 3 paragraphs.
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does the barrel need to be longer than 22"?
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If I was marketing that concept, I'd be thinking about light, packing rifles and heavier Varmint types.
Barrel lengths should be dictated by the style rifle being offered.
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Kimber should do the 22 Creedmoor and call it something with "Kimber" in the name. Then they'd have their own success story.
If I were starting the project from scratch, I'd go with a 7 twist right outta the gate. Good bullets are only getting longer now and into the future.
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I'll wait for the .257 Creedmore. Won't that be revolutionary?! Beyond revolutionary, it would be souper!
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I'll wait for the .257 Creedmore. Won't that be revolutionary?! Beyond revolutionary, it would be souper! And how about a catchy name, like the 25 Souper!
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I'll wait for the .257 Creedmore. Won't that be revolutionary?! Beyond revolutionary, it would be souper! And how about a catchy name, like the 25 Souper! Catchy name, but wrong case.
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I'll wait for the .257 Creedmore. Won't that be revolutionary?! Beyond revolutionary, it would be souper! And how about a catchy name, like the 25 Souper! Catchy name, but wrong case. just a small technical detail...
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