Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Is the 7X57 mouser the campfire cartridge of 2016?

I walked in the house this afternoon and the smell of pork cooking in the crock pots is everywhere. We're in the 40 days of Lent right now, but Sundays are always feast days, so it ain't all that bad.

Mrs. Rev marinated the backstraps from a little sow I shot last week, as well as one of the hams from a young boar I shot a couple of weeks before that, in mojo sauce (overnight), then put them in the crock pots with fresh mojo sauce, fresh sliced onions, and a little bit of black pepper. They'll cook until they completely fall apart, then she'll shred them a little more and we'll let them soak in their own juice overnight. Tomorrow we'll reheat and dip it all over yellow rice. As I said, it ain't all that bad!

Why do I bring this up? Because both pigs were taken with Ingwe's old "Heavy Rifle" - the Ingwe Special.

Which, of course, was the 7x51, or as we called it the "7mm super" for many years before Remington hijacked it. Great cartridge though, by any name!

Courtesy heads up. I just listed a nice older 7x57 Mark X in the classifieds.

The 7x57 has been my cartridge of the year at least since 1981 or 1982.

This old cartridge needs its own forum. Just about every thread runs 15 or more pages.

Rev, As you are our leader for this day I've got a question . My dad's old (1951) Rem. 721 .270 W. has a .2785 groove. I have a .280 Pacific brand push through die that sizes .284 120gr Horn. HP's to .2795. Does this count? BTW when I was on Maui for the last 2 weeks my SIL (US Postal Service) gave my 2 new Bombay Bowlers, 1 plastic, 1 fiber official ones but bright white! I loaded some ammo with those bullets and a min. load of 4895 and will shoot in the AM. The only bullets that shoot fairly well in that gun are hot loaded 150 NPT with I-4064 so far. "May the Lord keep ......"-Thanks-Muddy

You won't get an argument from me. Let's get-R-done.
Paul B.

Muddy, I think it'll count...as a good ol' .270!

How was the shooting today?

I have some boxes of those 120 grain blue NBTs coming. I'm going to load a few up and see if they're too tough for pigs. I'm seeing pics of dead elk they've taken, so they just might be.

Oh oh, the mouser thread is dead?

Blasphemy!

The Campfire Cartridge of 2016?

The 6.8 x 57, obviously









in fairness, this one is the last 7x57 I owned. It was intriguing enough, that I almost kept it despite the bolt handle being on the wrong side

C'mon boys, lets kick it up a notch, the thread is waning.

Ok I'll ask this. Would JOC have been a bigger proponent of the 7 Mouser if the .270 Win wouldn't have come along? Did JOC endear himself to the .270Win. on his own or was he prompted by the "industry" or maybe even his editor?

Ok, let's mull this around for a couple more pages.

OK, I'll help revive the thread by telling you all I saw the ultimate, consummate 7x57 Mauser. It was absolutely perfect in form and function, and kept in a safe at an undisclosed location by our own EdM here on the 'fire....

I've got one picked out too. Just need to make the phone call. I see sleepless nights in the near term.

Hey Ingwe, ask him to post a pic. I have seen a couple in his threads.

Always like pics of 7x57s. Still kicking myself for not buying an Oberndorf Model M in 7x57 about 15 years ago. Seller and I just could not agree on price.
Paul B.

Whoop, I certainly can't know JOC's mind but I have a feeling that it was a combination of BOTH.

He spoke his mind whether anyone agreed with him or not. He saw the 270 perform over yrs + on multitudes of game. At the same time he GOT PAID for writing, so...

We also know that Jack liked 'other' cartridges as well because he wrote praise of them. My ? is, how many Win 70, 270s did he sell? No one knows but obviously he was involved.


Jerry

Yes I suppose when JOC started to get name recognition - the 60's, the .270 Win was around for some 35 years - although WWII would have slowed down interest and sales. So maybe all JOC did was to help with the interest in the .270 WCF.
I wonder if the .308 put a damper on things in 1952 when it came out. Some of this is just idle conjecture along with a full pot of coffee.

whoop -

I graduated H S in 1967. Around here in the 60s I only knew of people mainly using 3 guns for deer hunting.

12 ga, 30-30s, & 06s. A lot has changed for a number of reasons AS I'm sure you know.

My opinion - only- I think the 308 didn't start showing its influence till later 60s into the 70s. I reserve the right to be wrong. The 06 had such an entrenched head start, I think it took a while.

Also in the 60s we had other NEW rounds introduced. 7mm RM - '62, 264 WM '59, etc. so the 308 had new competition as well.

From my memory (cobwebbed-rusty) I remember the 264, 7 RM, and even 300 WM receiving a lot of attention. I don't remember the 308 getting as much. (just because I don't remember doesn't mean anything)


It seems to me that the 308 has become MORE popular in the last 20 yrs than it was in the 60s. could be wrong??


This is just my impression, I wasn't aware of the 7mm Mauser's popularity till I joined the 'fire in 2010.

As you say, idle gun gack. Interesting to some, not to others.


Jerry

The M-14 rifle went into service with the military in the late 1950's. That gave the 308 Winchester a big jump start toward wide acceptance.

Everybody became aware of the cartridge quickly and almost all the rifle manufacturers started chambering rifles in 308 right away.

Some models were almost created for the cartridge, such as the Remington M-600.

And Savage sold a lot of M-99's in 308 Winchester.

With the stamp of approval of the US Marines, as well as the other branches, I would say that the 308 Win. was born popular, and its popularity has stayed pretty steady to this day.