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Nope, have not tried them yet. For the price and availability of them I did buy a few boxes.
I had a feeling that you would be posting on them one of these days though. Looks very encouraging. And, you are probably right on the similarities with the mono bullets.

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They seem to be pretty good rounds, and they're accurate in the one 7x57 I've used them in. I haven't shot them any any of the others. And you're right: you can't beat the price - at less than $16 per box, they're good practice loads (and a source of brass) if nothing else.

I just wonder if they aren't just a tad tough for pigs. As I said, they seem to act like TSX or E-Tips or one of the other monos, which generally means a small hole in and a bit larger hole out. The regular C&Cs, on the other hand, leave a bit more "carnage," as Ingwe puts it, behind. I think the only way to really tell is to open one up to see what the Grom does on the inside.

Give them a try when you get a chance. I'm curious to see what you think.


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Update.

A friend of mine asked for a small pig so he could do a "Hawaiian cookout" with the pig split on a grill. He was looking for something under 30 pounds or so. I went out this afternoon and took a little boar for him. Here are the results of a factory Grom at about 40 yards on a 25 pound pig. This looks more like a standard cup and core than the Grom design. Interesting, huh?

Sorry for the graphic photo, but that's what this bullet does with a shot to the noggin - exit side.

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A lot of bone structure there to destroy that could have caused that much exit damage. Don't think I would judge bullet integrity with that shot.

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That's nasty Rev! That location, the bone fragments probably did most of the carnage..

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You're undoubtedly right about the bone fragments, as well as the compression of everything being pushed by the impact of the bullet.



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From your picture, I gotta think that tiny lead core is opening up pretty well. Guess I'm going to have to shoot a deer or two to see. I bought three boxes of that ammo for my Schpringfield-chambered Sako FN because it was cheap. From your results, looks like it might also be good. Might better buy me some more.


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Pappy, these things are accurate, cheap, and seem to work. I know most folks reload more for performance than economics, but these are cheap and work - the best of both worlds.

And I have 15 boxes of them. crazy


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Rev, Have not taken a count but I'm probably not far from what you picked up. However, you probably needed them more so than I did. It will take most of your ammo to burn the plastic from the barrel that the previous owner sullied the barrel with.

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Performance, economics, convenience, and consistency. Even before the crunch, finding two or more boxes of ammo with the same lot number was tough. Once I work up a load, I've got a bunch on hand and can duplicate it with no muss or fuss. $.80 per round for good stuff is tough to beat though and when it's gone you've got decent brass. With no '06 dies or brass on hand, the choice was easy.



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Pappy,

If you buy a case from Target Sports USA, it's not only discounted by the shipping is free. But a case of Prvi is 25 boxes (500 rounds). You'll need to leave what's left to your grandchildren in your will.

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Don't think I need that much!

They're out of it at present. If the brass turns out okay, I might pick up a few more from Grafs. Last time I paid about $16 a box. I try to wait until I need a few items before I order to take advantage of the $7.95 shipping.

They list the 170gr '06 at 2430fps which is a bit slow. Need to check the Prvi site again.


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Works out to 2657fps from a 24"bbl.

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Pappy, in some previous posts Mule Deer mentioned that he likes the Prvi brass. You might want to send him a note about it.


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Yeah, I kinda-sorta worked that out myself a while back (arithmetic makes my head hurt) and thought the figure quoted by that dealer seemed a bit low.

Thanks.

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I think you're right, Parson. I hate to bother him too much about stuff I'd be better off figgerin' out for myself. He's a busy guy, so I try to save him for the tough ones.

BTW, my neighbor was telling me about the trouble she was having getting her daughter to read anything other than teen romance stuff. She said that the girl did like reading about real stuff. I gave her my old paperback copy of Maneaters of Kumaon. Be interesting to see how that works out.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
BTW, my neighbor was telling me about the trouble she was having getting her daughter to read anything other than teen romance stuff. She said that the girl did like reading about real stuff. I gave her my old paperback copy of Maneaters of Kumaon. Be interesting to see how that works out.


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That bullet design is almost identical to the PO Ackley controlled expansion design except the lead core was elliptical shaped in his version. He made these in 17 and 22 cal. and probably some others.

The Grom is acting like it is bonded as well in the one photo.
But probably isn't.

RevMike that bullet was pretty tough on the little porker. He would need to wear a hat to attend the Luau.

Was there any romance in "Maneaters of Kumoan"?


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Especially since he was the guest of honor!

I'm going to keep playing with the round and see how it does. What I need to do is try a heart-lung shot, but I hate risking losing a pig in the brush. Twenty yards off a right-of-way and they're lost in palmetto and myrtle thickets. Or a swamp, which can be worse. Generally, if they're not DRT they're gone for good.


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Here's a picture of Early Ingwe with his first Ingwe Special, complete with specially trained tracking dog. I'm not sure, but he may have been using a Grom...or a Partition. Either way, it was long before he got into plastic tips. As a matter of fact, it looks to be long before there was even plastic to make tips.

I think the dog is laughing at his rabbit, though.

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