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So I just ordered in a barreled uppper reciever for my Palmetto State lower my son gave me. Total newbie to the world of AR's here. My first question is, if I choose to hunt deer with this, and want to try a different caliber besides .223, what calibers can I get and still use this lower without modifying? I'm wondering about 6.5 Grendel? I'd just purchase another complete upper as long as I could drop it on to this receiver.
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Pretty sure it will work, but you'll need different magazines.
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You can run anything that is in the AR 15 family 204,20 practical,6.8 spc 2,6.5 Grendel, 6x6.8,and alot more wildcat rounds.
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I'm thinking that Grendel would make a decent hunting round.
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If legal, where you are, 223 and good bullets will kill any deer that ever walked....
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If he's in Minnesota, it would be.
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Joe Bob's has what appears to be a good deal on a 6.5 upper. Complete with BCG and charging handle for $500. No personal experience with that brand. 6.5 Upper at Joe Bob's
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If your deer are @150 yards or less, nothing will drop the hammer like the 450 Bushmaster. Should you run across a Moose, Bear or Velosiraptor, you're good to go.
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As others have said, "IF the 223 is legal and you place your shots well", the 223 with proper bullets will likely work on reasonable sized deer. The Nosler 60 grain partition and 64 grain bullets as well as the 64 grain Winchester bullets are purpose made for big game and I am sure others have suitable bullets.
That said the 6.5 Grendel will do it better as well as others, including the 7.62X39.
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I'm thinking about a conventional scope for hunting purposes, most likely a 3x-9x. Is there any advantage to the purpose-made scopes that have more of a military application? The gun will have open sights in addition to any scope I mount on it. My deer hunting is done in the woods and shots don't range out much farther that 100 yards.
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My son has instructed me to make sure I don't buy any magazines without the non-tilt followers. How do I tell by the ads if the mags have these or not?
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Also, what's everyone's thoughts on a verticle foregrip, considering I plan on hunting with this rifle?
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the Magpul PMags are very good, and very popular. there seems to be some problems with the 20 rd mags, but the 30 rd mags seem fine. i have NO experience with the 20rd PMags. the anti tilt followers are a good idea. there have been several revisions, so a little research will help in finding the ones to avoid. also, the metal usgi mags are good as well. D&H, is one brand that is well received. as far as scopes go, lots of schools of thought. the best gets expensive, and if your life depends on it, you should get the best. otherwise, there are a lot of options http://www.at3tactical.com/blogs/news/11491881-ar-scopes-what-is-the-best-scope-for-your-ar-15as for verticle grips, i don't like them personally. i have a friend who is a Green Beret, and he uses this: https://www.magpul.com/products/afg-2keith
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For hunting out to "100 or so yards" I would lean towards a 1.5-5X or 2-7X in a more compact package. I would leave the irons off of a purely hunting carbine with a scope unless it was an out of town hunt or something.
Don't think a FVG would be much help leaning up against a tree or fence post or from a sitting position. Maybe sticks or a bipod.
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one can put as much crap on an AR15 as one wants, there are hundreds of suppliers with "great ideas" waiting for the next sucker to punch in their CC. Failure to understand that the bolt/carrier/barrel/LR parts kit/receiver tolerances have a lower limit of required quality and then hanging a ton of accessories on a poor base seems to be popular these days. Well it certainly will "look" good. For shooting deer a 5.56 using a 55 or 62 TSX bullet through the front half of the deer works. Different calibers are fun and more expensive, and for me don't bring that much more to the party other than trying something different. I quit reading posts where people claim DRT/hammer of thor a few years ago, shooting skill followed by leaking blood and lack of oxygen is what kills animals. Here is a .22 cal deer gun made by Colt.
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I'm thinking along the lines of a 2x-7x. What about the front sight? I'm aware that I should keep the scope as close to the bore as possible, but if I do that, will I be picking up the front sight in stead of what I"m trying to sight on?
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You learn to ignore the sight, its more visible on low X than high, but you can learn to ignore if if you don't have a detachable front sight...
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You won't see it above about 3x.
If it does bother you, they're easy enough to shave down.
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I'm aware that I should keep the scope as close to the bore as possible True on a bolt gun, but the unique design of an AR requires the scope to be much higher from the barrel than you are likely accustomed to, in order for the scope to align easily with your eye when coming to shoulder. As an example, if you attempt to install standard weaver scope rings on an AR, the extra high are not high enough unless you also use a rail or some method to get them higher. The one piece mounts made by various makers such as Burris, Primary Arms, LeRue, etc are the best way to go. With such mounts the only thing you need to be concerned about is the diameter of the tube, not the height needed to clear the barrel with the objective bell.
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Actually I have a couple of guns with just extra high rings and no riser and they work fine for ME.....
But I have the rest with an extra 3/4 riser and then normal rings or so... seem a bit easier, the just EH rings I do have to have a snug cheek weld, which isn't a bad thing either.
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