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I fully understand. I also fear what IS going to happen when neither Trump or Cruz have the necessary 1237 going in.

The Trump supporters understand. They're just pissed at the underhanded way the RNC has handled the nomination, they're pissed at the way the media has handled the nomination, they're pissed at the way Cruz has handled the nomination, and they're pissed at the Cruz supporters who try to convince them that they have nothing to be pissed about.

And they're pissed enough that if Trump doesn't win the nomination because of all the above, that they're never going to have anything to do with the GOP again,

No house, no senate, no Presidents, no Conservative Supreme Court Justices,...nothing.

And the Cruz people did all of that in an attempt to get a candidate nominated who could never beat Hillary in the first place.

So,...if Trump doesn't get the nomination, it'll be your party.

Have fun trying to get anything done with what's left of it.

I heard Trump's son complaining about the disenfranchisement issues of the Republican party and he kept going on and on like the RNC was a covered by the fundamental principals of Democracy.

Acting like they are a victim of the RNC chicanery and convincing everyone that its a Democracy is the best shot they have in covering up the other [bleep] disaster that was their ground game.

I honestly think they believed it was a popular vote, and they probably think the general is the same way.

Hey,....don't let it bother you.

All that stuff that bothers you about the GOP is going to go away.

It'll be all yours if Trump doesn't get the nomination.

You can do anything you want with it,....except get people elected, of course.

But other than that, you'll have free reign.

blah blah blah.

I get it, you hate the RNC.

I would be happy to see the RNC tank, but not in the middle of a [bleep] general election.

You don't seem to care unless your boy gets the nomination from a party he doesn't give [bleep] about anyway.

Still don't know why he sourced the GOP for his run rather than go independent, like his kids are registered?

Sounds nefarious.

I just told you that you folks can have the entire party. What more do you want?

You want it to be your way? Now you can have it your way.

You really believe that with all of the Republican wins in the last 6 years, that it's all going to fall apart if Trump doesn't win?

Even though he's only got 37% of the vote?

Here's how it will very possibly go down: If Trump doesn't walk in with 1,237 delegates on the first vote, Cruz will announce Rubio as his running mate. Cruz and Rubio together have many more voters backing them than Trump. Trump has no legitimate argument that he should be the one to walk away with the nomination. Delegates that had been bound to Trump and delegates for Rubio shift over to Cruz, Kasich delegates jump on the bandwagon and Trump goes home without the delegates, without the nomination, with a lower number of voters than the winners, and the country moves forward.

All Trump has to do to stop it is walk in with 1,237 delegates for the first vote. Then all this whining and complaining doesn't matter. He can move on to lose in November.

Trump supporters are tired of all that kind of talk.

Once you have the party all to yourselves you can tell it to each other.

We're there for Trump. If Trump's not it, you can have the whole party.

We'll just go away and let you have it.

I call it a coup when the voters are undermined.

I find it ironic that Cruz will then ask the voters to vote for the guy who undermined them.

That is Cruz's long game.

Not every voter in the US of course, but the ones in 32-36 states.

And all Cruz has to do is come up with 29% of the delegates needed, who are actively not representing the voters in their districts, on the floor during the convention. Well, and then make it out of there in one piece.

Here is your second ballot delegate waiting on deck, congrats?



Mitch McConnell told WHAS-TV that he anticipates he himself will be a delegate, and "on the second ballot I'll be free to do whatever I want."

Think about what that represents... Ted Cruz stood on the floor of the Senate and called this man a LIAR, publicly and it went world wide.

And this man will still vote for Cruz rather than Trump.

All Trump had to do was act even slightly presidential instead of playing the reality TV comedic vulgarian.

It's a very good lesson in how to lose when all the odds are in your favor.

They don't get it.....

So, Trump lost?

*shrugg*,..if you say so.

In any event, if Trump's not the nominee, you can hang out with Old Turtle all you want.

The party will be all yours,....no anti establishment types left to rain on your parade.

What qualities for a junior senator huh. A regular steven hawkings

You don't vote anyway, you just whine.

After another 16 states, Trumps lead is likely to out pace their numbers combined. We can count up the votes on April 27 if you like. Unless you think the next 6 states are not going for Trump at 45-55%, with his competition pulling in 20% or less. That is 6 states where he more than doubles his lead in the popular vote. Optics won't be working in Cruz's favor, and neither will that 37% for Trump number. That number will be moving on up.



The other thing about the rules is, it's a man vs man race at this point. Adding another candidates total to your own doesn't help Cruz any more than it helps Trump. Add Rubio's votes to Trump and where does that leave Cruz? Alongside Peter Pan in Neverland where rules are made up to suit the imagination, and voters show up in support after being screwed.

,..and watch4bear too.

If Trump isn't the nominee, y'all can hang out with Old Turtle and watch4bear all you want.

The party will be yours.