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Before you can use the Bible as evidence you must establish it's credibility, which you have failed to do, so there is no reason to believe your above assertion.

As for you erroneous understanding of cause and effect, I've already explained this to you in detail. You should really look up "butterfly effect", and "snowball effect".

We need to establish the credibility of the bible? GMAFB.

If the bible is not a credible source when discussing Christianity with a militant atheist then I suppose us Christians should be terribly worried about the veracity of the book while believing in the atheist. Lolol

I personally believe what is taught in the Christian Holy Bible about heaven, hell and God.

To all who disagree, someday we'll see who's right, won't we?

Yep, in plain language.

But this thread has developed into another "Full Moon" thread.
So lunar ramblings pervade.

Well I certainly don't have the definite answer, just like everyone else. Still, if I had to bet I'd bet on everyone being wrong, by more than a little. We haven't even figured out everything about our earth and environment yet, nevermind our solar system and then the rest of space. What's the chances someone got the whole God/creation etc thing just right? If such a thing exists, could we even fully understand it? Most people can't even fully understand quantum physics or the like.

I believe a creator, I just don't know for sure what the nature of that creator is. I have ideas and beliefs, but am fully aware that some or all of them may be wrong. I don't KNOW, and neither does anyone else. If they say they do then perhaps the don't understand what KNOW means. Some have died and come back with amazing stories, and maybe they know...but maybe it's all a trick of the brain. I don't think so, but it's a possibility. And if you accept one NDE then can you discount the rest, the ones that don't match up with your idea of what should have happened? Don't know, but it's all very interesting nevertheless,and hopefully one day I KNOW.

I actually have zero issue with the notion of superior beings, or that they might have seeded life here. I don't call them "God". I call them aliens.

mojohand, thanks for quoting the story from skeptics.com; it certainly puts an entirely different light on Alexander's book!

I didn't read the book that critically, but on the other hand I have to say the critics may be reading it with an excess of zeal. I'm not sure I have the time or energy to chase down their accusations and assertions to be sure they are being truthful themselves. It seems to be necessary in this day and age of internet "investigative reporting".

Again, thanks for bringing up the critique. At the very least it pops a lot of air out of the Alexander balloon.

AcesNeights,

The unbelievers trust in their ignorant prejudice more than science. Consider, in ancient literature, the number of manuscripts available and the years between the manuscripts and the time the evens occurred. For the objective scientists there is nothing like the Bible in number of manuscripts and accuracy.

I remember lecture about three archaeologists, Drs. Nelson Glueck, Clifford Wilson, and William Albright, on a dig in the Middle East. The only Christian in the bunch was Clifford Wilson. But they all used the Bible to help them find dig sights and to date the dig sights. Gluick, being the most antagonistic, admitted something to the effect, "Those Jews were careful historians."

I was watching a program about history. There was a panel of five professors or scientists from different countries. None were even remotely religious. Something about Jesus came up. The woman from Russia suggested Jesus was based on a myth. The other four ganged up on her with legal historical facts that she could not ever begin to refute.

The atheist use a tool we are all guilty of using. It is called ignorant prejudice.

LOL, you gotta bear with me... we won't be able to infil until 4 years and 8 more months, then we'll learn the local tongue. LOL

That presumes there is something of us intelligent that survives death. If not, there is nothing the experience anything, let alone and afterlife.

Jeff_O,



I may not have spelled "adinfititum" correctly. Maybe someone will correct my spelling so you can understand it. The idea of spacemen bringing the DNA to earth still begs the question, where did they come from, adinfinitum. Eventually, an intelligent person wants to know where the first one came from.

THis is getting to be like the folks that come to the LR forum and scream you can't shoot that far because I can't shoot that far.

Fine, shoot short, and play your game but leave the rest of us alone. You are not doing any good trying to convince us that we don't know how to shoot. LOL

Not really, since main stream Biblical Scholars now accept that Moses and the Exodus are fiction.

No they actually don't.

Rost,

I'm not saying you can't shoot that far, I'm saying you need to chronograph your loads and check your drop charts on paper vs. taking the word of some ancient Mesopotamian clay tablet.

Main stream? AS, with all due respect bud, you really are clueless about what you don't know and you should just quit while you are behind.

It's curious that like a fly you and others who don't believe keep coming back to threads like this to utter complete completely ridiculous comments.

antelope_sniper,



Like I already posted: You read and listen to only those who agree with your position. Can you discredit the three archaeologists I posted? Please try. You will be famous.

I just spoke with God.

He said all y'all mutha fugka's are going to hell.

He's cool with me though.

Why do you, or Jeff_O, create any of the things that you two have created...ya'll's children, for example...?

...... aaaaand this is what I like about Mr. Rocket.