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It was the only non-racist color I could come up with on the fly.

This post almost made reading this thread worthwhile. LMFAO

No kidding, I can see trying to prove something exists that you believe in, but if you believe in nothing, then whats the point of trying to prove nothing?

Trying to PROVE that something exists because you believe it to be so is some funny sheit.

Because Star Trek dude.

AS, that's exactly what I mean-Wikipedia? a secular or even worse source to answer questions on Biblical inerrancy? That's what I mean about not knowing what you don't know and, again, not meaning that disrespectfully.

There's nothing wrong with being ignorant, but persisting in it and basing a belief system on it without further study is, as we say, the definition of insanity.

If I knew you were sincerely searching for answers, for truth, I'd spend all the time with you per PMs or cell phones that it would take to answer your questions or try to and send you to legitimate sources for the same. But I won't parry here on the internet arguing with someone who intransigent in their ignorance. If you'd study the issue intensively, knew the facts and then reject it I would accept that.

Mojo-, about those who don't offer an argument for the faith- What do you want here on the internet? Their are volumes written on the apologetic (an explanation or defense of) of the Christian faith- more confirming science, archealogy, philosophy, etc than you could cram into a four year seminary program. And the same thing applies as the response to AS-most folks like you use circular reasoning without recognizing it or studying the issue, meaning you start out with what you want to believe and end at the same point filling in the middle with feelings, experiences, or what you read, etc., that agrees with your point of view.

But if you are seriously interested PM me.

Regardless, I hope you all have a good week.

Thanks George.

Ken Howell lead several theological threads where I didn't feel a need to comment, but they were usually more of the intrinsically of theology between Christians, and less of the Pascals Wager, non-believers are going to hell, type of threads. But Ken was a very skilled theologian.

Yes, he was very skilled and knowledgeable.

George, of course I would start with secular, scientific sources to corroborate the factual claims within a religious text. in this instance I used Wikipedia because it's well footnotes and written at an easy to read level. Anyone who wants to read the original sources, can. It also demonstrates the low level of knowledge of some of those who claim to know the idea's I put forth are wrong, yet their familiarity with the subject isn't even up to what's in Wikipedia, let alone any real understanding of the subject.

Using the Bible to prove the Bible is what you accuse me of, circular reasoning. Neither of the well know biblical stories of Moses nor Joshua are collaborated by archaeology. Other archaeological and historical claims fail as well, sufficient to dispute the idea of an inerrant bible.

MojoHand,



You seem to think you are so cleaver. When I was a Sunday School teacher if there was something in the Bible I brought it to the kids. In a town of 1,000 population my high school Sunday school class started with 9 kids. They seem to love all the stuff in the Bible. They never heard most of it before. Within a year or so the class grew to 24 kids.

You seem to think I read stuff or watch stuff to prove myself correct. I don't. I do it for my fun. At times I use what I recall on these forum or in conversation. I used to read the Bible and archaeology stuff on purpose and subscribed to some magazines. As my education grew I discovered most of them were like some here. Despite claiming to be Christian they believed in a weak god made in their own image. They believed men wrote the Bible or at least distorted the Bible. After all they were men. I am convinced God is Infinite. Thus He can have men write out His Word as accurately as this computer writes out what I want it to say on my post. Being a retard compared to the original created man by God I make plenty of mistakes.

What I get a kick out of is stuff like when Dr. Kindell debated a guy who was very antagonistic to God's Word and though he was so educated and advanced. At one point he emphatically stated something to the effect, "The trial of Jesus was all a myth. After all, no one has ever uncovered any large pavement where Jesus' trial supposedly took place." The very next year the pavement was uncovered in Jerusalem. As the diggers continued to did they came to a wall and uncovered the wall. To my delight the name Pilot was engraved in the wall above the pavement.

The Hittites were known only in the Bible. Now every archaeology student knows about them.

Mitochondrial DNA shows there are three lines. The Bible tells us there were three baring women after Noah's Flood.

I read stuff and listen to stuff because it's fun not to prove my beliefs correct or someone else's wrong. But sometimes it does happen.

Why do you, or Jeff_O, create any of the things that you two have created...ya'll's children, for example...?

How many billions of people on our earth maintain a notion of an immortal soul, and what percentage of those billions are 'blowing up a buncha people who think differently than them so they can be rewarded in an afterlife'...and then show us how you've "demonstrated" that doing so is a "common failing of that mode of thinking"...?

antelope_sniper,

You start with the idea the Bible is wrong and stop when you find something on the web you agree with. You apparently didn't read to the last paragraph of Mojohand's cut and paste.

You and I are at the exact same point with the distinction that I've never been a Catholic. I HAVE been to a Mass. Does that count?

Ed

No AS, you are incorrect in that also. And I'm finished here with other things to do at the moment but answer me this if you will: why do you persist? I'm not questioning you freedom to reject all of this so why come back and to what purpose?

Except I'm aware of the additional difficulties introduced with attempting to move the timeline a full millennium. It just doesn't work.

antelope_sniper,



You mean you don't want it to work!

450 of 452 suicide bombers in 2015 were Muslim.

Suicide bombing is a faith based initiative.

I feel like I'm at the zoo watching the monkeys and somebody gave them a bag of hammers and screwdrivers.

Hmm how interesting , how do you know I am white or an American Christian? You know chitt. Do Blacks or any other nonwhites if they are a member of the Christian community not have the same god ? Are you really this stupid? It boils down to 50/50 odds you are right or wrong .