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Give him the benefit of the doubt along with the rifle. Treat him as I would like to be treated... Yep. Doin' the right thing ain't always easy, but it's always right.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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I'd have to see the guy and determine whether I thought he was being truthful.
I wouldn't keep the gun, but I might certainly tell him the price went up $40 for late fees.
did similar with a kinda family member, took him a long time to get the cash to buy his Sako back.
but let him have it back at what I'd given him against it.
and if it was biz, the guy could have damned well called on day 30 unless he was in the pokey
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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There's only one thing to do....the right thing. Look yourself in the mirror and that guy will tell you what's right.
You only live once, but...if you do it right, once is enough.
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I'd tell him to go buy me a 1/2 gallon of FAMOUS GROUSE....come back and sit down and we'll have a shot or two....and give him the $$$$ back!
Simple!
Even birds know not to land downwind!
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Mebbe tell him since he was late you sent to the 'smith for rechambering to a .300 Blackout and new tactical stock?
Then I'd give it back, take the $300 and move on.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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Good to see all the "do the right thing" replies here. The question was Hypothetical curiosity based on a real event from my past. Because this choice was indeed a turning point in my life when it happened 35 years ago at the age of 19. Whether he was honest or not didn't matter. All I could think of was "What if it was my Great Grandfather's Rifle?" and he was indeed being sincere and honest about it. I did give him the benefit of the doubt and gave it back to him. I would like to believe that this action may have helped towards some of the extremely good fortune I have had in life since. Good to see those who would do the right thing, not just for the guy wanting it back, But for themselves. Would I do it again today? or tomorrow? Absolutely
When I no longer have the right to protect my own person or property...my person and property have become public property in common.
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Good Man!
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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Good Man! I see a whole bunch of guys on here that deserve that more than I do! Know what would be cool? If one of the longtime respected Members here on the Fire popped up and said "Hey! that was me!". I would feel even better
When I no longer have the right to protect my own person or property...my person and property have become public property in common.
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I don't loan strangers money. If he wanted to sell it, fine.
TRUMP- GABBARD 2024
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I'm w/ Ingwe. If you are willing to put up a family heirloom as collateral your motivation should be greater than the value of the object. If it is truly of importance you would not take advantage of the person extending you the credit.
Phug a bunch of losers w/ sob stories, let them feel the bern.
mike r
Don't wish it were easier Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
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Being a little bit late is like being a little bit pregnant. Id charge him the going rate. That sounds fair..... It's a business transactions. The purpose of collateral is to insure you are repaid. In this instance you are being repaid, so it that regard in served it's purpose. If he's returning it late, you should be happy, after all, you are earning an extra 10 days worth of interest without any additional labor, and earn some good will in the process. It's just good business.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Jeff...I understand your point....but it all hinges on the guy actually telling the truth...which I don't think is the case. If it was truly that important to him, he would have been on time. And failing that he should have been ashamed to show up ten days late looking for sympathy.
I wish I still had your ( and many other members here...) faith in humanity, but Ive been lied to and cheated so many times that no one gets a pass. Don't worry when I get as old as you are I'll be there.... I'm getting there fast. But the above would have to be walk a mile in my shoes. I didn't take it this was a pawn shop, just a repair shop or gas station of the old days, and we were all more honest in days gone by I think. I happen to know a bit more about the story than y'all do. LOL. Of course I'm country and prefer it that way, and as such I'm a bit... maybe a lot, more naieve. The fact he came back for it speaks worlds to me...
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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First...and very first thing...on the day I took possession of it...I would ask the police to run a stolen item search on it.
But thats just me. And if it comes up hot, you done lost your $300.00 and the gun. Keep the cops out of it.
The Mayans had it right. If you�re going to predict the future, it�s best to aim far beyond your life expectancy, lest you wind up red-faced in a bunker overstocked with Spam and ammo.
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It seems like if he was genuinely concerned about a family heirloom, he would have attempted to contact you when he knew he was going to be late. Either way you didn't lose anything that was yours and your conscience is clear. Win-win.
Wag more, bark less.
The freedoms we surrender today will be the freedoms our grandchildren will never know existed.
The men who wrote the Second Amendment didn't just finish a hunting trip, they just finished liberating a nation.
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Give it back. No question.
Harry
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Two problems-
Phone calls are free. Why didn't he call and inform you he was going to be late? Poor upbringing or decision making.
Second, since he obviously has not been taught that his word is his responsibility to protect, I would teach him that lesson. He gave his word and failed. You have no responsibility to enable him to continue in his poor decision making.
Hold his feet to the fire since his parents never did, apparently.
Throw the Krag in the river for all I care, but hold him to his word one way or another.
_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack
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how do you know he had his #, and if he was in the process of moving he could of run into some problems, how far did he have to travel to get back, might of started a new job and couldn't get away when he thought he could.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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I'd ask him his position on management of public lands by the USFS and BLM. If he said public lands should be transferred to the states, I'd keep the rifle.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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he could show up a yr later i'd still give it back to him, i didn't buy it, just took it for collateral, as long as i got my money back he'd get the gun back.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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