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Yeah, I prefer black in many ways myself, Good God, sir. This is a family site. Dave
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Campfire Sage
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Dave,
I always thought the Campfire was one of the most tolerant sites on the Internet.... We are only tolerant of stupidity. How else would I achieve this post count? Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Campfire Ranger
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Not really. Heard it from Ingwe. Did you ask him about how tough it was going from flint to percussion?
What fresh Hell is this?
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Or matchlock to flinter???
I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Campfire Oracle
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Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association
Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
Ken
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Campfire Ranger
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What was the gist of the article?
Shrinking as in smaller calibers, lighter rifles or both?
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
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Campfire Kahuna
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“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
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I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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Campfire Ranger
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It seems to me that women and kids have always been able to slay big game with smaller calibers and smaller rifles. Looks like the men are finally catching up to the women and children...
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
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Campfire Ranger
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Guys killing hogs with 223s now.
That was not sporting in 1976
"The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II
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Campfire Kahuna
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Jim,
My wife has offended a few men over the years by pointing out exactly that--but only men who deserved to be offended.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I'll admit it. I shrank mine down a bit. Went backwards and a little oldschool though. You know they were making 11 oz scopes way back when, but this McMillan chit is the chit!!! : Sorry for detouring the thread. I know you old fu cks like talking about your shriveled and shrinking junk...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Campfire Ranger
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The second deer I ever killed was shot with a .25-06. Despite being hit perfectly on a broadside shot, it ran zig-zagging 100 yards and left almost no blood trail, and it was not easy to find. The bullet had actually deflected off a rib and exited out the bottom of the doe's belly, a very strange wound. After that point I moved up to the .270, and had nothing but bang-flops with it. A few years later, I obtained a chronograph, and realized I'd been somewhat under-loading the .25-06. Also realized the 100gr Ballistic Tip was at the time considered a varmint bullet by Nosler. So those factors may have explained the funky wound. Fast forward a few more years, I drop down to .223 and take a spike in good order, then take Dad's old .25-06 out, this time loaded smartly with a 110 Accubond, and get a good quick kill. So yeah I've moved down in cartridges some, but I still think bigger holes are seldom a bad thing
"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."
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I look forward to reading the article. I have been a skeptic about .22 cal bullets for deer sized animals. This said, I have never seen a deer shot with a .22 cal. There seem to be a bunch of folks with much more hunting experience than me stating that they work great. I have shot several deer that were quartering toward me. Does one pass on this shot with a .223 or similar loaded with appropriate bullets?
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Campfire Ranger
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I don't think I'd use a .22 of any flavor for big deer, though I know people do it with good bullets. I used a 65 Sierra Gameking on the buck above; it broke the onside humerus bone, and separated core & jacket, but still killed well with the deer only going about 30 yards. I'd probably stick with either Barnes or Partitions in the future, for deer under 200 lbs.
"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."
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I don't think I'd use a .22 of any flavor for big deer, Stand by, the villagers will be along shortly, festooned with pitchforks, torches and rope...
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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22 is too big.17 or 20 cal is plenty big for deer.
Its all right to be white!! Stupidity left unattended will run rampant Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
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I have shot a lot of big game with .22 caliber rifles.. Ok when things are good, but I still feel like it is stunt shooting..
Molon Labe
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Campfire Ranger
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I don't think I'd use a .22 of any flavor for big deer, Stand by, the villagers will be along shortly, festooned with pitchforks, torches and rope... Meh. Come to think of it, I did just buy a .375 H&H Whitworth, maybe I'll use it this year... ...or I could use a .218 Bee and really get some old fogeys distressed...
"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I don't think I'd use a .22 of any flavor for big deer, Stand by, the villagers will be along shortly, festooned with pitchforks, torches and rope... Actually, they would probably be armed with salad forks, wooden matches, and kite string.
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