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"Firearms must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container and transported as checked baggage only. Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock."
^From the TSA website.^
TSA locks don't meet this requirement.
You might get away with it, but be prepared otherwise. Trust me. I fly with firearms all over this country, TSA locks can mean the difference between making a flight and missing a flight depending on how TSA does it at that airport. So the TSA approved locks are ???.....collectible?lol
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TSA locks are not "collectibles", neither were they intended for gun cases, where they violate the TSA rules.
I too have flown all over the country with firearms and carry both kinds of locks with me, just in case I run upon a TSA inspector who plays by the rules.
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Like I said depending upon the airport you may not be present when TSA checks your case. If that happens and your case is locked you WILL be called back to the counter, required to open the case for TSA, have to go back thru security to get to your gate. I carry 2 sets of locks but only use TSA locks for the last 5 years. TSA recommended I switch and I did. None of my locks are combination locks so that's moot and the word "should" in your quote is not a definitive but rather a suggestion.
Flying out of Seattle is not a problem because of the way TSA is set up here but other airports are different and that's when TSA approved locks can make a difference.
What's the purpose of TSA locks if not so the TSA can check your bags without cutting your locks or baggage? I've always taken a second set of keyed alike locks just in case and still do but have never needed them.
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Do I buy TSA locks before heading to the airport? Get them there? Confused on the lock issue...
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Do I buy TSA locks before heading to the airport? Get them there? Confused on the lock issue... I have and use both, and carry both just in case; but have never been asked to change them. Just make sure they are not too big so as to allow that case be opened more than a quarter inch.
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Has been a few years since flying with firearms but I picked up a pack of 4 master locks keyed alike and left 2 inside my guncase in a ziplock bag with an easily seen note asking TSA to use those locks to secure my case if the other locks needed to be cut. Last couple times TSA did not open and inspect my case in my presence but said they just xrayed and sniffered them. Started running a heavy wire-tie down the barrel of pistols and out the action so it was obvious they were unloaded.
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Buy the TSA locks before you go to the airport. They have a red diamond on them indicating that they're TSA approved.
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Before using TSA approved locks I was called back to the counter in New Orleans after going through TSA security, they just wanted me to unlock it so it could be checked I didn't miss my flight but it was a lot of hot, humid unnecessary running around. I was a little pissed since it never happened before and the guy was real friendly and said just use TSA locks and you won't have to worry.
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I don't doubt you've done it with TSA locks but in what is a rare clear government directive. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition"Firearms must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container and transported as checked baggage only. Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock."I got called back in Feb to open a shotgun case that has integral locks but that's the way it is.
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Guys, thanks for the info. I'll be flying with a handgun soon and will attempt to actually get my schidt together before then.
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Has been a few years since flying with firearms but I picked up a pack of 4 master locks keyed alike and left 2 inside my guncase in a ziplock bag with an easily seen note asking TSA to use those locks to secure my case if the other locks needed to be cut. Exactly the way I do it! I also keep TSA locks in the case if that is what they want.
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Like Brazos, I put the rifle and the .454 along with their ammo in a large Pelican case. The 10X50 binos were in there also. I took a photo of the open case for insurance purposes.
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Like I said depending upon the airport you may not be present when TSA checks your case. If that happens and your case is locked you WILL be called back to the counter, required to open the case for TSA, have to go back thru security to get to your gate. I carry 2 sets of locks but only use TSA locks for the last 5 years. TSA recommended I switch and I did. None of my locks are combination locks so that's moot and the word "should" in your quote is not a definitive but rather a suggestion.
Flying out of Seattle is not a problem because of the way TSA is set up here but other airports are different and that's when TSA approved locks can make a difference.
What's the purpose of TSA locks if not so the TSA can check your bags without cutting your locks or baggage? I've always taken a second set of keyed alike locks just in case and still do but have never needed them. I think we are arguing the same side Aces. I'm just reluctant to advise someone to ONLY take TSA locks with them. The purpose of TSA locks was to allow the TSA to open normal luggage, not gun cases. Regards and happy traveling.
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It says not to use TSA locks last time I looked.
We've been flying with guns to AK since our honeymoon in 95. I've NEVER used a TSA lock on a gun case. I've never used a non tsa lock on our other baggage
I've NEVER had an issue.
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I don't doubt you've done it with TSA locks but in what is a rare clear government directive. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition"Firearms must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container and transported as checked baggage only. Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock."I got called back in Feb to open a shotgun case that has integral locks but that's the way it is. I do keep the key. Must be and should are not interchangeable. You're accepting a suggestion as law, which is incorrect. What are TSA locks for?
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Y'all have been very helpful and I appreciate everyonea input.
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It doesn't say firearms should be unloaded it says must be. Keys and combinations don't say must be it says should be. Allowing TSA access to check the firearm is the law and there are easy ways of accomplishing that and there are more difficult ways. TSA locks are simply the easy way of accomplishing that.
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Y'all have been very helpful and I appreciate everyonea input. Have a safe trip!
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Do I buy TSA locks before heading to the airport? Get them there? Confused on the lock issue... I have and use both, and carry both just in case; but have never been asked to change them. Just make sure they are not too big so as to allow that case be opened more than a quarter inch. If I fly through a new airport that I haven't flown before I have non TSA locks on the outside and TSA locks on the inside in case the TSA agent has no clue, which is frequently the case. That way you are covered either way.
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I don't doubt you've done it with TSA locks but in what is a rare clear government directive. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition"Firearms must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container and transported as checked baggage only. Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock."I got called back in Feb to open a shotgun case that has integral locks but that's the way it is. I do keep the key. Must be and should are not interchangeable. You're accepting a suggestion as law, which is incorrect. What are TSA locks for? So I should give them the combo to the locks if I don't use keyed locks? Do what you wish. I don't want to show up at the other end with an empty case. I've traveled with a firearm many times and in only one case have I had to go back to open it. That's why I get to the airport early if traveling to hunt.
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