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Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Otter6 #11219589 06/01/16
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wageslave Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 24,619 Idaho	Beautiful animals. You animal. Have Dog Will Travel

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Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? wageslave #11219592 06/01/16
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ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky	When I was younger I used to just run them down, jump on their backs and sink my teeth into their necks...... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Otter6 #11219649 06/01/16
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JGRaider Campfire Ranger J Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,285 Likes: 15 W. Texas	Ingwe/Bobin.....love seeing the pics. Very nice animals too. It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Otter6 #11219744 06/01/16
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beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,360 Likes: 10 Northeast USA	Great pictures fellas! Great bucks.. Semper Fi

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? ingwe #11219920 06/01/16
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BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900	Inge: Nice! I do love this stuff! The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

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Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Otter6 #11220238 06/01/16
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,723 Baker, MT L laker Campfire Tracker
laker Campfire Tracker L Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,723 Baker, MT	We've used scopes from 4-12,3.5-10,3-9,2-7 and anymore the wife and I both just prefer a straight 6x scope. Our ranges that we have killed animals are from 30 yards to 450 but typically are from 200-300. You don't need a high power scope for hunting out west. Heres a few victims of low power scopes. 90 yards 3-9 If I remember right about 120 yards 3.5-10 Right at 300 yards. 3-9 430 yards with 6x 450 yards 6x scope 200 yards 6x Last edited by laker; 06/01/16.

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Otter6 #11220293 06/01/16
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laker Campfire Tracker L Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,723 Baker, MT	50 yards 3-9 Hell it can even be done without a scope. 40 yards 43 yards Last edited by laker; 06/01/16.

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? ingwe #11220404 06/01/16
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wyoming260 Campfire Regular W Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 2,538 Wyoming	Originally Posted by ingwe When I was younger I used to just run them down, jump on their backs and sink my teeth into their necks...... On one thread I remember seeing Shrapnel holding the foot of an antelope and it had the other three feet on the ground and he was holding some kind of rifle. He stated the .243 was not effective!!!!!

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Otter6 #11221128 06/01/16
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OP Otter6 Campfire Regular O Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,315 PA	Good looking bucks there laker. "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? JGRaider #11221206 06/01/16
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BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900	JG thanks! Laker that muley looks like a very old buck! The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

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Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Otter6 #11221672 06/02/16
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beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,360 Likes: 10 Northeast USA	Great pictures Laker... I'm slowly coming around to the straight 6X myself. Haven't found it lacking in the least yet. Semper Fi

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Otter6 #11221911 06/02/16
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mrmarklin Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,924 People's Republik of Kaliforni...	Originally Posted by Otter6 OK. I was involved in a discussion recently. A bunch of us easterners were hashing out various deer hunting related nonsense. Rifles,calibers,scopes. It seems there is an underlying thread through the whole "Out west" conundrum. Seems flat shooting rifles with high magnification glass are best suited to hunting out west. Yep. That's the skinny. So,here it is. How about all of our resident western deer hunters chime in. What is the average,longest,and shortest range you take mule deer at? A bunch of folks here think all mule deer are shot at no less than 300 yards. (Most have never been west of the Mississippi) I know I can count on the "Fire" to iron this out. They won't listen to me. The last mule deer I shot was 270 yards-lasered. I Wyoming, where I do most of my pronghorn and deer hunting for over the last 30+ years, I would say the average shot is 200 yards. I've shot over 300 only once, and under 200 several times. I would say an average of 300 is high.

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Otter6 #11221971 06/02/16
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Snake River Marksman Campfire Tracker S Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,082 Etna, Wyoming	I limit myself to 300yds. But I'm a stunt shooter. I use a 250 savage with 100gr interlocks, and either a straight 6 or a 3x9 usually set on 3. I keep forgetting to crank it up at the moment of truth. I put a second shot on a doe antelope at just over 400yds once. She was dead on her feet from the first shot at 200 but she was having a hard time getting the memo that she'd been killed. The second shot convinced her! Stupidity is expensive If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Otter6 #11221972 06/02/16
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LarryfromBend Campfire Regular L Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 651 NC Montana	I've been killing Deer, Elk, Antelope and One Sheep in MT and OR since '59. Only the Sheep was taken past 300 yards. Most everything else was 100 yards or less. A few were 150-250. I've used mainly (on Mule and Whitetail Deer) a .308, a 7 Rem Mag, a .270 and for the last 20 years, a 6MM-06. The biggest scope I've used on big game is a 3x9x40. When I was growing up on the plains of MT, the .270 was very popular -- still is. If you lived on the West side of the Continental Divide you more likely had an '06. Pretty much everyone had a 2 1/2 or 4 power scope. Last year my Nephew's son missed an Antelope Doe several times with his .338 RUM. Maybe times are changing. Last edited by LarryfromBend; 06/02/16.

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Mackay_Sagebrush #11222080 06/02/16
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KCBighorn Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,085 Oregon	Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush Mid 400s tend to be my average for mule deer. In the last 20 or so elk and deer, other than the one described above, I have not shot a single one under 300 yards. My experience as well. "Out West" can mean many different environments, but as was stated earlier, the potential for long shots is very real.

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Otter6 #11222208 06/02/16
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TheBigSky Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,845 Big Sky Country	I will echo what most of my fellow "westerners" have said herein. However, if you want to go hunt in the west in Alaska, with our little buddy, you will need to set yourself up to be able to take 1 to 2000 yard shots. Anything else, you're wasting your money no matter what your personal interests and needs are. If you don't believe me, just ask a couple of his regular sycophants. _________________________________________________________________________ “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? ingwe #11222433 06/02/16
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New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 42,123 Likes: 10 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario	Originally Posted by ingwe Never before believed in the notion that men get better looking as they age ! Guess you can learn something new everywhere, even the campfire. Paul. "Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? Snake River Marksman #11223287 06/02/16
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OP Otter6 Campfire Regular O Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,315 PA	Originally Posted by Snake River Marksman I limit myself to 300yds. But I'm a stunt shooter. I use a 250 savage with 100gr interlocks, and either a straight 6 or a 3x9 usually set on 3. I keep forgetting to crank it up at the moment of truth. I put a second shot on a doe antelope at just over 400yds once. She was dead on her feet from the first shot at 200 but she was having a hard time getting the memo that she'd been killed. The second shot convinced her! Good shooting! My daughter and I shoot in a local 400 yd deer target match. That's a pretty good poke. The 250/3000 is a cool round. "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? New_2_99s #11223484 06/02/16
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smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,217 Likes: 13 Colorado	Originally Posted by New_2_99s Never before believed in the notion that men get better looking as they age ! Since this is ingwe we're talking about, I have to ask--better than what? A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: "Out west" fact or fiction? smokepole #11223489 06/02/16
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ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky	"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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