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I took this pic of a bull at 1/2 mile. My camera has a 30x zoom and the 1st pic is at 30x. The 2d is approx what is on the camera screen when I blow that up another 16x. It's clearer on the camera as the computer monitor plus Photobucket hash the quality. In real life I would be able to more or less count the points if this was a deer at 1/2 mile. I always have my camera with me. A small tripod helps a lot and is a lot lighter than a spotting scope.
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Huntz, How far were the deer from you? The first one mentioned was hundreds of yards away during mid-day with the sun shining. You can see the third point is not very visible. The second one was less than 100 yards away in a misty fog of the early morning. We've all heard a shot early on opening morning. I got the trophy in a previous photo at 8:15AM on opening morning. I have proven to anyone who will try it that when you want to see more detail in low light turn up the magnification of your scope. It will work for Easterner also.
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Interesting thread. I say a little bit fact and fiction.
I'm planning to hunt a burn this year for blacktail. There is timber left in the burn which can be still hunted and I'd prefer a light rifle for that. There are also 1500yrd shots available (Too long for me). It has a lot of steep canyons. If you see a nice buck on the next ridge over, you may not have enough time to stalk him. I plan on taking a magnum and sacrificing a little bit on the snap shots (Wish I had a nice 6.5, but I don't).
The last several years I've bow or muzzleloaded at least 50% of the time.
I've killed elk from 6 ft to 426yrds (Longest shot on big game so far). Most deer have been under 350. I hunt blacktail more than mulies. I'd still recommend being prepared for long shots, at least if you're trophy hunting.
I know a guy who has killed his last 4 of 5 bulls at over 400yrds.
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Not picking a fight nor picking on anyone. Observations around the Campfire. LOL
Out West it stays light longer. LOL
The West is wide open spaces of grass and sage. LOL
It is unethical to direct your rifle at a buck during buck season. LOL
A 6x scope is in no way a detriment in the brush. LOL
20X recommended minimum for Blacktails. LOL
Oklahoma is West. LOL
A three-point may be an eight-pointer. LOL
Whitetail means Eastern deer. LOL
Elk hunting is spot and stalk. LOL
Deer Camp is a house. LOL
The West is lightly populated. LOL
Wild horses. LOL
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Pretty well covers it. Jerry
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Campfire Kahuna
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Out West it stays light longer. LOL Because of the screwy time zone boundary, in so. Idaho it actually does. You have to get your sleep while it's dark longer in the morning.
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Does here too. And a 3 point could never be an eight point..... unless you are from back east and count brow tines....and even then, it would be termed "an eight pointer".... i.e. This would be a four point mule deer... This would be a three point whitetail... The only thing you count brow tines are is elk....this would be a five point...
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Just a question , but why do Native westerners not count brow tines on deer???? Boone and crockett does and not all mulies with nice racks have them so why not include everything the deer grew?????
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I honestly wish I knew the answer.....
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Here's a double negative. I don't not count the brow tine.
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Here we'd call that MD a 5x5, and the WT a 4x4.
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That is a NICE mule deer Poobs!
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Got that one when I was obviously younger, still just as obvious it wore my ass out! Used to love hunting the big ones!
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They are fun. These 2 stooges got lost and were down on the river bottom last week. Yearling twins?
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That is a NICE mule deer Poobs! That is in fact a very nice 10 point muley buck!
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As far as staying light longer,I know in muzzle loader season in September,there is a lot more day left at the end of me
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That is a NICE mule deer Poobs! That is in fact a very nice 10 point muley buck! I thought you said you lived in WESTTexas......
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As far as staying light longer,I know in muzzle loader season in September,there is a lot more day left at the end of me Yeah, and being on the top of a high ridge at 1st shooting light isn't nearly as much fun as it used to be either.
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As far as staying light longer,I know in muzzle loader season in September,there is a lot more day left at the end of me Yeah, and being on the top of a high ridge at 1st shooting light isn't nearly as much fun as it used to be either. Why I love Maine during the rut...you never kill them until at least 8:30 to 10 AM in the morning. Those bucks move all day then.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Mule deer aren't found in numbers even remotely approaching eastern whitetail numbers. As a result, years ago Idaho moved the hunting season dates forward a few weeks to avoid the rut. Except for a few small hunts, we can't hunt them during the rut.
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