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We're gonna have a civil war guys, and a lot sooner than I thought it would happen, especially if they make any traction on the latest gun control exploits. When this can happen in a state like Idaho, it can happen anywhere, and will.
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Snopes reports this as "mostly false"...there was an incident (not rape) involving a 5 year old girl and three boys aged 8, 10, and 14...the boys were of Middle East descent but were not Syrian and were not refugees...
Cheers/bg Snopes doesn't know since the record is sealed, but it would not stop them from lying about it, either way.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Eventually someone is going to get tired of this crap and start kicking azz. I just don't see us letting this happen like they do in Europe. Problem is, the population has been trained to expect the government to handle a crisis. Now that the crisis is allowed by the government, people will just sit around and complain.
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We're gonna have a civil war guys, and a lot sooner than I thought it would happen, especially if they make any traction on the latest gun control exploits. When this can happen in a state like Idaho, it can happen anywhere, and will. Sad as it is, you're fooling yourself, there's not going to be any civil war. Not until people are fighting over the last crumb of bread or scrap of potato do wars break out. That actually IS happening in Venezuela at the moment and they haven't risen up yet. Our gov't will never let that happen. As long as the gov't keeps a majority of the population fat n happy, nothing will ever change.
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The latest report is that no rape occurred. Here's the article:
TWIN FALLS | Authorities are denying reports that Syrians gang-raped a child at knife-point in a Twin Falls apartment complex earlier this month, saying the false claims are being spread to incite anti-refugee sentiments.
“There were no Syrians involved, there was no knife involved, there was no gang-rape,” Twin Falls County Prosecutor Grant Loebs said Monday morning.
His comments largely refute several differing accounts about the incident circulating on anti-refugee resettlement and conspiracy websites and anti-Muslim blogs. Most of those accounts claim a group of Syrian refugees sexually assaulted a mentally disabled girl at knife-point June 2 in the laundry facilities of Fawnbrook Apartments, a low-income housing complex in Twin Falls.
Loebs said he didn’t want to “fan the flames of anti-Syrian refugee people” and suspects the rumors swirling around the Internet that the boys were Syrian is the work of a local group opposed to refugee resettlement.
“There is a small group of people in Twin Falls County whose life goal is to eliminate refugees, and thus far they have not been constrained by the truth,” Loebs said. “They have not been constrained by the truth in the past, and I don’t expect them to be constrained by the truth in the future.”
An incident did occur, Loebs said, and two juveniles have been charged after authorities obtained video shot on a cellphone. But the details of the case don't match what's being reported by anti-refugee groups, the prosecutor said.
The criminal cases against those juveniles have been sealed, as is customary when children are charged. Although prosecutors are barred from discussing certain details in sealed juvenile cases, Loebs laid out the basics in an interview Monday to the Times-News. Police are expected to provide more details in a briefing on the incident at a City Council meeting Monday evening.
According to prosecutors, three boys were involved, ages 7, 10 and 14, and the alleged victim was a 5-year-old girl. The boys are of Middle Eastern descent but none are Syrian or are recent refugees, Loebs said. There were no adults involved, the boy's didn't have a knife and the incident wasn't a "gang-rape," Loebs emphasized.
“All those involved are juveniles, and the older one didn’t touch the victim in any way,” Loebs said. He said only one person is alleged to have touched the victim; he declined to elaborate.
The prosecutor received a report Thursday from police. Further refuting claims made in the stories online that police bungled the investigation or tried to cover it up, Loebs said the police investigated the incident thoroughly, interviewed everyone who needed to be interviewed and followed proper protocols.
Loebs said sex cases between minors aren't uncommon and implied that this case is being exploited by the local anti-refugee movement to make a political point.
Refugee-resettlement officials called the online stories deceptive attempts to incite anti-refugee sentiments.
A handful of people from Syria live in Twin Falls County — 11 Syrians were receiving food stamps in the county and eight were on Medicaid in 2015, according to the state’s statistics. However, Jan Reeves, director of the Idaho Office for Refugees, said no Syrian refugees have been resettled in Twin Falls.
“There have been periodic website postings about hundreds of Syrians coming to Idaho that have all proven to be false in the past, and this is probably just one of those attempts to try and stir up hatred and bigotry,” he said.
Loebs said the College of Southern Idaho Refugee Center, which oversees refugee resettlement in the Magic Valley, did not resettle the boys involved and that the program has “absolutely nothing to do with this.”
Zeze Rwasama, director of the CSI Refugee Center, said he doesn’t have any details about the incident or the names of those involved but is deeply concerned about what the online claims and misinformation are doing to the community.
A headline at the online news site Drudge Report read: "REPORT: Syrian 'Refugees' Rape Little Girl at Knifepoint in Idaho." Snopes, a fact-checking website, said the story was "mostly false."
“I think the community has seen a lot of negativity around the refugee programs," Rwasama said. “Speculations are things that can destroy the entire community.”
Refugee opponents are trying to promote an agenda, particularly, against Syrian refugees, Rwasama said. “Social media is a good tool, but it can be used to sabotage a program like the refugee program that has been very successful for a long time.”
He asked residents to confirm facts and refrain from speculating online.
“It breaks my heart when people in the community are divided around issues of resettling refugees,” he said.
Last week, residents at a City Council meeting called on city officials to release more information about the incident and questioned whether authorities were covering it up. The story blew up over the weekend when the juveniles were arrested, and differing accounts were widely circulated on conspiracy-oriented blogs such as Dr. Rich Swier, Refugee Resettlement Watch, Creeping Sharia and Info Wars.
Supporters of the family started a Facebook group, "Justice For Our Children," that had almost 9,000 members as of Monday morning. They have also started a GoFundMe page to raise money to help the family move and an online petition that had more than 1,100 signatures from all over the country as of Monday morning.
People concerned about the incident are expected to speak at this evening's City Council meeting, which begins at 5 p.m. at 305 Third Ave. E. Police Chief Craig Kingsbury is expected to give a briefing at the beginning of the meeting.
The incident is just the latest to rekindle a debate in Twin Falls over refugees, security, culture and religion.
News last year that Syrians fleeing a years-long civil war could be among about 300 refugees to be resettled in Twin Falls this year touched off an anti-refugee movement that sought to close the local resettlement office. Those efforts failed when organizers couldn't gather enough signatures to put the measure before voters. Critics of the program have raised concerns about security and refugee vetting, but some of the movement's most prominent members have also tried to frame the debate around religion by frequently making disparaging remarks against Muslims.
Though no Syrians refugees have been resettled in Twin Falls, 36 have been resettled in Boise.
“These were all families,” said Reeves, the director of the Idaho Office for Refugees. “They’re now resettled here. They’re moving on with their lives.”
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The latest report is that no rape occurred. Here's the article:
TWIN FALLS | Authorities are denying reports that Syrians gang-raped a child at knife-point in a Twin Falls apartment complex earlier this month, saying the false claims are being spread to incite anti-refugee sentiments.
“There were no Syrians involved, there was no knife involved, there was no gang-rape,” Twin Falls County Prosecutor Grant Loebs said Monday morning.
His comments largely refute several differing accounts about the incident circulating on anti-refugee resettlement and conspiracy websites and anti-Muslim blogs. Most of those accounts claim a group of Syrian refugees sexually assaulted a mentally disabled girl at knife-point June 2 in the laundry facilities of Fawnbrook Apartments, a low-income housing complex in Twin Falls.
Loebs said he didn’t want to “fan the flames of anti-Syrian refugee people” and suspects the rumors swirling around the Internet that the boys were Syrian is the work of a local group opposed to refugee resettlement.
“There is a small group of people in Twin Falls County whose life goal is to eliminate refugees, and thus far they have not been constrained by the truth,” Loebs said. “They have not been constrained by the truth in the past, and I don’t expect them to be constrained by the truth in the future.”
An incident did occur, Loebs said, and two juveniles have been charged after authorities obtained video shot on a cellphone. But the details of the case don't match what's being reported by anti-refugee groups, the prosecutor said.
The criminal cases against those juveniles have been sealed, as is customary when children are charged. Although prosecutors are barred from discussing certain details in sealed juvenile cases, Loebs laid out the basics in an interview Monday to the Times-News. Police are expected to provide more details in a briefing on the incident at a City Council meeting Monday evening.
According to prosecutors, three boys were involved, ages 7, 10 and 14, and the alleged victim was a 5-year-old girl. The boys are of Middle Eastern descent but none are Syrian or are recent refugees, Loebs said. There were no adults involved, the boy's didn't have a knife and the incident wasn't a "gang-rape," Loebs emphasized.
“All those involved are juveniles, and the older one didn’t touch the victim in any way,” Loebs said. He said only one person is alleged to have touched the victim; he declined to elaborate.
The prosecutor received a report Thursday from police. Further refuting claims made in the stories online that police bungled the investigation or tried to cover it up, Loebs said the police investigated the incident thoroughly, interviewed everyone who needed to be interviewed and followed proper protocols.
Loebs said sex cases between minors aren't uncommon and implied that this case is being exploited by the local anti-refugee movement to make a political point.
Refugee-resettlement officials called the online stories deceptive attempts to incite anti-refugee sentiments.
A handful of people from Syria live in Twin Falls County — 11 Syrians were receiving food stamps in the county and eight were on Medicaid in 2015, according to the state’s statistics. However, Jan Reeves, director of the Idaho Office for Refugees, said no Syrian refugees have been resettled in Twin Falls.
“There have been periodic website postings about hundreds of Syrians coming to Idaho that have all proven to be false in the past, and this is probably just one of those attempts to try and stir up hatred and bigotry,” he said.
Loebs said the College of Southern Idaho Refugee Center, which oversees refugee resettlement in the Magic Valley, did not resettle the boys involved and that the program has “absolutely nothing to do with this.”
Zeze Rwasama, director of the CSI Refugee Center, said he doesn’t have any details about the incident or the names of those involved but is deeply concerned about what the online claims and misinformation are doing to the community.
A headline at the online news site Drudge Report read: "REPORT: Syrian 'Refugees' Rape Little Girl at Knifepoint in Idaho." Snopes, a fact-checking website, said the story was "mostly false."
“I think the community has seen a lot of negativity around the refugee programs," Rwasama said. “Speculations are things that can destroy the entire community.”
Refugee opponents are trying to promote an agenda, particularly, against Syrian refugees, Rwasama said. “Social media is a good tool, but it can be used to sabotage a program like the refugee program that has been very successful for a long time.”
He asked residents to confirm facts and refrain from speculating online.
“It breaks my heart when people in the community are divided around issues of resettling refugees,” he said.
Last week, residents at a City Council meeting called on city officials to release more information about the incident and questioned whether authorities were covering it up. The story blew up over the weekend when the juveniles were arrested, and differing accounts were widely circulated on conspiracy-oriented blogs such as Dr. Rich Swier, Refugee Resettlement Watch, Creeping Sharia and Info Wars.
Supporters of the family started a Facebook group, "Justice For Our Children," that had almost 9,000 members as of Monday morning. They have also started a GoFundMe page to raise money to help the family move and an online petition that had more than 1,100 signatures from all over the country as of Monday morning.
People concerned about the incident are expected to speak at this evening's City Council meeting, which begins at 5 p.m. at 305 Third Ave. E. Police Chief Craig Kingsbury is expected to give a briefing at the beginning of the meeting.
The incident is just the latest to rekindle a debate in Twin Falls over refugees, security, culture and religion.
News last year that Syrians fleeing a years-long civil war could be among about 300 refugees to be resettled in Twin Falls this year touched off an anti-refugee movement that sought to close the local resettlement office. Those efforts failed when organizers couldn't gather enough signatures to put the measure before voters. Critics of the program have raised concerns about security and refugee vetting, but some of the movement's most prominent members have also tried to frame the debate around religion by frequently making disparaging remarks against Muslims.
Though no Syrians refugees have been resettled in Twin Falls, 36 have been resettled in Boise.
“These were all families,” said Reeves, the director of the Idaho Office for Refugees. “They’re now resettled here. They’re moving on with their lives.” Neighbors, I'm guessing?
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At 76 I may not live to see it but in the final analysis I think there will be a lot of killing going on and those doing it will be highly pizzed of Patriotic Americans!! Whether the above story is true or not....there's just too many instances of brutal conduct by those entering the USA on an illegal basis! And the ironic thing is...the US Congress just doesn't seem to give a schitt...one way or the other!!
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Sad as it is, you're fooling yourself, there's not going to be any civil war. Not until people are fighting over the last crumb of bread or scrap of potato do wars break out. That actually IS happening in Venezuela at the moment and they haven't risen up yet.
Does the population of Venezuela own 500 million weapons the government wants to take away?
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The latest report is that no rape occurred. Here's the article:
TWIN FALLS | Authorities are denying reports that Syrians gang-raped a child at knife-point in a Twin Falls apartment complex earlier this month, saying the false claims are being spread to incite anti-refugee sentiments.
“There were no Syrians involved, there was no knife involved, there was no gang-rape,” Twin Falls County Prosecutor Grant Loebs said Monday morning.
His comments largely refute several differing accounts about the incident circulating on anti-refugee resettlement and conspiracy websites and anti-Muslim blogs. Most of those accounts claim a group of Syrian refugees sexually assaulted a mentally disabled girl at knife-point June 2 in the laundry facilities of Fawnbrook Apartments, a low-income housing complex in Twin Falls.
Loebs said he didn’t want to “fan the flames of anti-Syrian refugee people” and suspects the rumors swirling around the Internet that the boys were Syrian is the work of a local group opposed to refugee resettlement.
“There is a small group of people in Twin Falls County whose life goal is to eliminate refugees, and thus far they have not been constrained by the truth,” Loebs said. “They have not been constrained by the truth in the past, and I don’t expect them to be constrained by the truth in the future.”
An incident did occur, Loebs said, and two juveniles have been charged after authorities obtained video shot on a cellphone. But the details of the case don't match what's being reported by anti-refugee groups, the prosecutor said.
The criminal cases against those juveniles have been sealed, as is customary when children are charged. Although prosecutors are barred from discussing certain details in sealed juvenile cases, Loebs laid out the basics in an interview Monday to the Times-News. Police are expected to provide more details in a briefing on the incident at a City Council meeting Monday evening.
According to prosecutors, three boys were involved, ages 7, 10 and 14, and the alleged victim was a 5-year-old girl. The boys are of Middle Eastern descent but none are Syrian or are recent refugees, Loebs said. There were no adults involved, the boy's didn't have a knife and the incident wasn't a "gang-rape," Loebs emphasized.
“All those involved are juveniles, and the older one didn’t touch the victim in any way,” Loebs said. He said only one person is alleged to have touched the victim; he declined to elaborate.
The prosecutor received a report Thursday from police. Further refuting claims made in the stories online that police bungled the investigation or tried to cover it up, Loebs said the police investigated the incident thoroughly, interviewed everyone who needed to be interviewed and followed proper protocols.
Loebs said sex cases between minors aren't uncommon and implied that this case is being exploited by the local anti-refugee movement to make a political point.
Refugee-resettlement officials called the online stories deceptive attempts to incite anti-refugee sentiments.
A handful of people from Syria live in Twin Falls County — 11 Syrians were receiving food stamps in the county and eight were on Medicaid in 2015, according to the state’s statistics. However, Jan Reeves, director of the Idaho Office for Refugees, said no Syrian refugees have been resettled in Twin Falls.
“There have been periodic website postings about hundreds of Syrians coming to Idaho that have all proven to be false in the past, and this is probably just one of those attempts to try and stir up hatred and bigotry,” he said.
Loebs said the College of Southern Idaho Refugee Center, which oversees refugee resettlement in the Magic Valley, did not resettle the boys involved and that the program has “absolutely nothing to do with this.”
Zeze Rwasama, director of the CSI Refugee Center, said he doesn’t have any details about the incident or the names of those involved but is deeply concerned about what the online claims and misinformation are doing to the community.
A headline at the online news site Drudge Report read: "REPORT: Syrian 'Refugees' Rape Little Girl at Knifepoint in Idaho." Snopes, a fact-checking website, said the story was "mostly false."
“I think the community has seen a lot of negativity around the refugee programs," Rwasama said. “Speculations are things that can destroy the entire community.”
Refugee opponents are trying to promote an agenda, particularly, against Syrian refugees, Rwasama said. “Social media is a good tool, but it can be used to sabotage a program like the refugee program that has been very successful for a long time.”
He asked residents to confirm facts and refrain from speculating online.
“It breaks my heart when people in the community are divided around issues of resettling refugees,” he said.
Last week, residents at a City Council meeting called on city officials to release more information about the incident and questioned whether authorities were covering it up. The story blew up over the weekend when the juveniles were arrested, and differing accounts were widely circulated on conspiracy-oriented blogs such as Dr. Rich Swier, Refugee Resettlement Watch, Creeping Sharia and Info Wars.
Supporters of the family started a Facebook group, "Justice For Our Children," that had almost 9,000 members as of Monday morning. They have also started a GoFundMe page to raise money to help the family move and an online petition that had more than 1,100 signatures from all over the country as of Monday morning.
People concerned about the incident are expected to speak at this evening's City Council meeting, which begins at 5 p.m. at 305 Third Ave. E. Police Chief Craig Kingsbury is expected to give a briefing at the beginning of the meeting.
The incident is just the latest to rekindle a debate in Twin Falls over refugees, security, culture and religion.
News last year that Syrians fleeing a years-long civil war could be among about 300 refugees to be resettled in Twin Falls this year touched off an anti-refugee movement that sought to close the local resettlement office. Those efforts failed when organizers couldn't gather enough signatures to put the measure before voters. Critics of the program have raised concerns about security and refugee vetting, but some of the movement's most prominent members have also tried to frame the debate around religion by frequently making disparaging remarks against Muslims.
Though no Syrians refugees have been resettled in Twin Falls, 36 have been resettled in Boise.
“These were all families,” said Reeves, the director of the Idaho Office for Refugees. “They’re now resettled here. They’re moving on with their lives.” "It breaks my heart when people in the community are divided around issues of resettling refugees,” he said."A couple of points; First off the above statement. People should have a right to not want refugees in their communities. Second; I understand this story may not be all true, but it is in some form. The problem is getting to the truth. The government has a lid on info. The press is complicit, as are the liberals.
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The federal government is doing its level best to destroy us from within.
This is rural Idaho... No offense my brutha, but I've been all over Idaho, and there are more West Coast escapees paying $50k per acre for desert and rock there than anywhere else I've been.
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"“There were no Syrians involved, there was no knife involved, there was no gang-rape,” Twin Falls County Prosecutor Grant Loebs said Monday morning.""
This prosecuters name is a jewish name .
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
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Critics of the program have raised concerns about security and refugee vetting, but some of the movement's most prominent members have also tried to frame the debate around religion by frequently making disparaging remarks against Muslims. How dare they tell the truth about the tenets of the Moslem religion!
Islam is a terrorist organization.
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Snopes reports this as "mostly false"...there was an incident (not rape) involving a 5 year old girl and three boys aged 8, 10, and 14...the boys were of Middle East descent but were not Syrian and were not refugees...
Cheers/bg Don't matter.....I still say you go out there and knee cap a couple hundred of those goat fuggers every day for a week or two and they'll run and hide under their beds like the cowards they've proven to be time and time again.....
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In Europe, our wise brothers burn the refugees out. Arson's a cowardly act....confront the cowards......violence is all they understand....they've proven that for over two thousand years now....
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Eventually someone is going to get tired of this crap and start kicking azz. I just don't see us letting this happen like they do in Europe. This administration is no longer just hiding facts, insinuating facts and suggesting facts, it is forcing this crap down our throats. Sooner or later Americans are going to see it for what it is and start getting angry and ugly. It can't come soon enough. It would be nice if someone other than FOX news would start reporting the truth from the start instead of catching up with what's being talked about on the internet via forums and Facebook. The establishment main stream media is so behind the times and has their nose so far up Mr. O's @ss they aren't even close to catching the anger of average Americans. kwg
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The only people who are going to "do anything" are those who are doing something now.
Most of you ain't them.
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The law prevents these types of stories from getting out as all were children according to this internet report. In todays environment my guess is this is just like Trump seeing thousands of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey after the towers came down, red meat for the base but 100% BS.
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They WERE Muslims.
They WERE from the Middle East.
The 5 year old WAS raped by the imported MUSLIMS.
The 5 year old WAS urinated on by the MUSLIMS
They just got the Syria part wrong.
The sideways talking politicians/agency heads are artfully dodging....
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Sounds like the community is angry upset and outraged. http://www.kivitv.com/news/twin-falls-pd-alleged-rape-committed-by-boys-of-iraqisudanese-descentFollowing the statements by Chief Kingsbury, Twin Falls residents addressed the city council.
“Coexistence does not exist in our country,” a man from Jerome explained.
A woman approached the podium and expressed anger toward the alleged perpetrators. “I am a red-blooded American. If they don’t follow our rules, they need to get the hell out of my country,” he explained.
The court records of the assault are sealed.
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They WERE Muslims.
They WERE from the Middle East.
The 5 year old WAS raped by the imported MUSLIMS.
The 5 year old WAS urinated on by the MUSLIMS
They just got the Syria part wrong.
The sideways talking politicians/agency heads are artfully dodging....
If that is true, taking location into account, this could be just the powderkeg Obama is hoping for when the inevitable response occurs. The filthy Marxist piece o'[bleep] has been trying to kick off any kind of insurrection he could since he's been in office.
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