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talk to someone with spinal stenosis, bulged/herniated discs in their back about it.
I drank a lot 30 years ago, stoppped with no issue cold turkey. I think i have a low suseptibility to addiction.

sitting here thinking of this, and i can think of two young men around the same age that drugs/alcohol did them in.
neither were street urchins.

Just got done with a big mess of crawfish but I'll be here for a week and appreciate any tips.

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i have been told due to the low cost, heroin is the drug of choice up in central arizona these days. And i just found out from a neighbor a guy down the street from me, gang activity, selling heroin.

Interesting thread, and more proof the drug war is long since lost.

With all the brilliant minds in the free world can't some one come up with a better idea, or is there just to much money involved?

The root of all evil...

That's the operative word hereabouts, too, Ron.

....and I don't get my advisories from the internet or tabloids, either.

I tossed a ball out on the court regarding the FBI basically TAKING over the USCBP / Border Patrol, last week.

Talk about something that CLEARLY effects what we've come to call "traffic" through our regaion.

Guess nobody's up for putting THAT ball into play, though...sigh.

The buzzwords chosen call out, "Ending Abuses".

GTC

Why do people always claim druggies got that way by dealing with pain (emotional etc)? Some people just like to party and get sucked in. Every loser druggie I've ever known had a give a schit attitude early on, and loved to try new drugs.

As I remember you sister was quitting. That make the whole thing even sadder.

I know a woman who was on the streets living for meth. One day called her dad and asked to come home. He hung up the phone and went to get her. Today, ten years or more later she is still clean but she admits it is an everyday fight. I can be done but they have to want to.

Add, no, for its propensity to cause immediate respiratory depression or failure as in the "frozen chest" syndrome even with relatively small doses.

I have seen a nurse who did not have sufficient knowledge of the drug push 1 cc (50 ug) IV to an elderly patient in the PACU post-op for pain relief. A code blue was called and in just moments I found the patient unresponsive and in respiratory failure. This is a drug you administer in fractions of a cc or doses of 15-25 ug at a time depending on the patients age and condition. In a solitary, abusing situation this would result in death or brain damage if not.

I personally know of one case of an anesthesia provider found dead with a syringe of fentanyl; while the person may be an expert in the pharmacology of the drug he/she doesn't know how they will react to it. The respiratory failure is accompanied by momentary unconsciousness so you are not aware to will yourself to breath. As C02 builds up in addition one becomes hyperbaric (too much C02 in the blood causing acidosis) also which itself is a cascading, deleterious event unless reversed.

Serious stuff.

Edit to add: if the stuff is synthesized for the street who knows what the strength or potency would be.

That's because it was never fought as a war.

If it was truly a war on drugs, the enemy would be identified, and we would use our military to systematically kill and destroy the enemy.

Anything less is a clusterphuque.

Shoot your local heroin dealer, Brother of a kid that OD'd and died here killed the sonnova bitch that sold his little brother heroin, got away with it too.

Good. Should be more of this.

I grew up the son of dual alcoholic parents that divorced when I was 14 years old.

I lived with my dad and my 3 other brothers and watched him die of lung cancer and alcoholism.

I lived in shame as the electricity was turned off, food in the refrigerator rotted and gave birth to big fat maggots, and the phone ringing off the hook from bill collectors.

I remember my dad's boss asking me for his keys to the business, because he didn't have the balls to confront him personally.

My brothers moved in with me because I was all they had.

I learned personal responsibility the hard way.
Those life experiences taught me a tough as nails work ethic.
My life sinks or swims based on my job performance every single day.

Not much sympathy here for those that cry for handouts and leech off of society due to bad life choices...

Hate to hear stories like this. Sometimes people just need somebody to reach out to but nobody is there. I'm no stranger to drugs and suicide runs in my family so this kind of thing isn't that big a mystery to me. But it tears at the heartstrings because I understand it.

Seriously?

I really don't know why so many are getting addicted to drugs these days, but I suspect the earlier mentions of prescription drugs being so common and being given so early is part of the issue. Kids being given drugs to modify their behavior might be more susceptible to trying other drugs to help them feel better later?

I also wonder if all the safety nets we put in place could be part of the problem. There is almost always some sort of program paid for by taxpayers or else charitable donations to help people with problems of their own creation. Perhaps in their attempt to be compassionate and caring, people are making things worse. Perhaps if there wasn't always a shelter to go to, a soup kitchen to eat at and a rehab to check into, the reality of drug addiction would be a little more raw and obvious to those who are dabbling. Kind of like a lack of welfare and government assistance might be motivating factor in people to actually work if they want to eat.

When you take all the sharp edges off the world, via government, I think some people go to extremes for a little danger.

I didn't read 15 pages.

We don't know what led to the addiction, it's possible she just started shooting last week. Heavy drugs and alcohol may not be the original source of her pain.

We can't choose our parents. Selfish people tend to attract selfish partners and sociopaths breed.

ya see it enough.. its easy to feel that way...

they don't care, then don't even really care, when everyone else tries to care for them...

They don't care if they live or die, they just live from high to high...so what does it do for them to rip your heart out feeling sorry for them...

hate to sound like that, but facts are facts...

It is not that difficult...kill every dealer/importer, same as any that want to use terrorism as a weapon.

Sooner or later there will be fewer, but until we get past the touchy-feely do-good crap that keeps getting in the way nothing will change.

Pooh-pooh this all you want, but anyone that puts themselves outside the law also puts themselves outside the protection of the law...and they are free game for all law abiding citizens.