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Everyone I know who's bought a 5" or 7" can, because they thought they'd only want to run it on a Blackout... has purchased another full size .30 can. Once you start rolling suppressed.... it's the only way you want to shoot anymore.
Buying anything but a full size .30 suppressor, when you've got other bigger rifles.... is like buying an F-150 when you've got a 5th-wheel, a big boat, some quads, and a sled trailer in the shed. Go the whole nine... you won't be sorry.
I run a SAS Arbiter... as do about a dozen pards. A couple others are running the SilencerCo Harvester. My brother shot a bedded cow elk at 350 yards the other day with a .260 through the Harvester. There was another cow bedded less than 40 yards from the one he shot... and she never even stood up when her partner dropped dead. Cans are the goods... you'll want one that'll work for every club in your bag.... not just your pitching wedge....
For the record.... I fully expect you to ask this same question about 19 more times in various sections of this website... but I'm only gonna answer you once... so tag this post. I don't have any other .308 firing rifles and don't plan on getting any. I am putting this together for coyotes and don't plan on using something this heavy for other hunting so there's no need for me to "tag this post." .30 caliber cans aren't just for .30 caliber rifles you retard ... they work very well with everything .30 and under. Hell, I've shot rimfires through mine. You're seriously the most ignorant, dim whitted guy on this board. Ask the same question in different places, 25 different times.... get the same answers... and still manage to phuc it all up. You gonna shoot some "ladders" with your .300 blackout "coyote rifle"? Have you ever actually shot a coyote? You'd be better off sticking the end of the barrel in your mouth... than sticking it in a suppressor.
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The Campfire was a place where someone could ask a question and get answers without getting called names. I already know a 30 caliber can will work for everything 30 call and under but not everybody knows that.
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You can form 1 a suppressor build, it will be tattooed with makers mark and serial number. You can sell it on form 4 (or 3) but like firearms you make, you can't be in the "business" of making and selling them.
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Everyone I know who's bought a 5" or 7" can, because they thought they'd only want to run it on a Blackout... has purchased another full size .30 can. Once you start rolling suppressed.... it's the only way you want to shoot anymore.
Buying anything but a full size .30 suppressor, when you've got other bigger rifles.... is like buying an F-150 when you've got a 5th-wheel, a big boat, some quads, and a sled trailer in the shed. Go the whole nine... you won't be sorry.
I run a SAS Arbiter... as do about a dozen pards. A couple others are running the SilencerCo Harvester. My brother shot a bedded cow elk at 350 yards the other day with a .260 through the Harvester. There was another cow bedded less than 40 yards from the one he shot... and she never even stood up when her partner dropped dead. Cans are the goods... you'll want one that'll work for every club in your bag.... not just your pitching wedge....
For the record.... I fully expect you to ask this same question about 19 more times in various sections of this website... but I'm only gonna answer you once... so tag this post. I don't have any other .308 firing rifles and don't plan on getting any. I am putting this together for coyotes and don't plan on using something this heavy for other hunting so there's no need for me to "tag this post." .30 caliber cans aren't just for .30 caliber rifles you retard ... they work very well with everything .30 and under. Hell, I've shot rimfires through mine. You're seriously the most ignorant, dim whitted guy on this board. Ask the same question in different places, 25 different times.... get the same answers... and still manage to phuc it all up. You gonna shoot some "ladders" with your .300 blackout "coyote rifle"? Have you ever actually shot a coyote? You'd be better off sticking the end of the barrel in your mouth... than sticking it in a suppressor. I was under the impression you were talking about only .30 caliber. Whether I've even seen a coyote is irrelevant to this thread. Being ignorant is a good starting place. If I felt like I knew it all I wouldn't have enough sense to ask questions. And yes I will fire a ladder test for my entertainment and education. Do you have any suggestions on powder and bullets?
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Everyone I know who's bought a 5" or 7" can, because they thought they'd only want to run it on a Blackout... has purchased another full size .30 can. Once you start rolling suppressed.... it's the only way you want to shoot anymore.
Buying anything but a full size .30 suppressor, when you've got other bigger rifles.... is like buying an F-150 when you've got a 5th-wheel, a big boat, some quads, and a sled trailer in the shed. Go the whole nine... you won't be sorry.
I run a SAS Arbiter... as do about a dozen pards. A couple others are running the SilencerCo Harvester. My brother shot a bedded cow elk at 350 yards the other day with a .260 through the Harvester. There was another cow bedded less than 40 yards from the one he shot... and she never even stood up when her partner dropped dead. Cans are the goods... you'll want one that'll work for every club in your bag.... not just your pitching wedge....
For the record.... I fully expect you to ask this same question about 19 more times in various sections of this website... but I'm only gonna answer you once... so tag this post. I don't have any other .308 firing rifles and don't plan on getting any. I am putting this together for coyotes and don't plan on using something this heavy for other hunting so there's no need for me to "tag this post." .30 caliber cans aren't just for .30 caliber rifles you retard ... they work very well with everything .30 and under. Hell, I've shot rimfires through mine. You're seriously the most ignorant, dim whitted guy on this board. Ask the same question in different places, 25 different times.... get the same answers... and still manage to phuc it all up. You gonna shoot some "ladders" with your .300 blackout "coyote rifle"? Have you ever actually shot a coyote? You'd be better off sticking the end of the barrel in your mouth... than sticking it in a suppressor. I was under the impression you were talking about only .30 caliber. Whether I've even seen a coyote is irrelevant to this thread. Being ignorant is a good starting place. If I felt like I knew it all I wouldn't have enough sense to ask questions. And yes I will fire a ladder test for my entertainment and education. Do you have any suggestions on powder and bullets? Serious question RingMan.... For my entertainment and education purposes.... Why would you run a ladder test for 150 yard subsonic loads?
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From the hodgdon website. From your questions I'm guessing you don't own a reloading manual.
The first is titled “H4895 Reduced RifleLoads.” H4895 has proven to be a versatile powder that performs superbly at lower powder charges. Loads in this listing are reduced from full power but still offer mid-range performance.If the goal is minimum recoil, the answer is Hodgdon Trail Boss powder. The second tab under the website DATA menu is titled “Trail Boss ReducedLoads.” Trail Boss can be applied to any cartridge you may want to reload. Trail Boss reloads are very mild and easy to shoot. Designed for Cowboy Action Shooting, Trail Boss has proven to be a great way to get more practice with your big bore hunting rifle.
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Ringman, You have class. Good luck on your build.
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Everyone I know who's bought a 5" or 7" can, because they thought they'd only want to run it on a Blackout... has purchased another full size .30 can. Once you start rolling suppressed.... it's the only way you want to shoot anymore.
Buying anything but a full size .30 suppressor, when you've got other bigger rifles.... is like buying an F-150 when you've got a 5th-wheel, a big boat, some quads, and a sled trailer in the shed. Go the whole nine... you won't be sorry.
I run a SAS Arbiter... as do about a dozen pards. A couple others are running the SilencerCo Harvester. My brother shot a bedded cow elk at 350 yards the other day with a .260 through the Harvester. There was another cow bedded less than 40 yards from the one he shot... and she never even stood up when her partner dropped dead. Cans are the goods... you'll want one that'll work for every club in your bag.... not just your pitching wedge....
For the record.... I fully expect you to ask this same question about 19 more times in various sections of this website... but I'm only gonna answer you once... so tag this post. I don't have any other .308 firing rifles and don't plan on getting any. I am putting this together for coyotes and don't plan on using something this heavy for other hunting so there's no need for me to "tag this post." .30 caliber cans aren't just for .30 caliber rifles you retard ... they work very well with everything .30 and under. Hell, I've shot rimfires through mine. You're seriously the most ignorant, dim whitted guy on this board. Ask the same question in different places, 25 different times.... get the same answers... and still manage to phuc it all up. You gonna shoot some "ladders" with your .300 blackout "coyote rifle"? Have you ever actually shot a coyote? You'd be better off sticking the end of the barrel in your mouth... than sticking it in a suppressor. I was under the impression you were talking about only .30 caliber. Whether I've even seen a coyote is irrelevant to this thread. Being ignorant is a good starting place. If I felt like I knew it all I wouldn't have enough sense to ask questions. And yes I will fire a ladder test for my entertainment and education. Do you have any suggestions on powder and bullets? Serious question RingMan.... For my entertainment and education purposes.... Why would you run a ladder test for 150 yard subsonic loads? See above. I thoroughly enjoy shooting.
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From the hodgdon website. From your questions I'm guessing you don't own a reloading manual. I have at least twenty loading manuals from the very early days clear up to one I purchased a year or so ago. The first is titled “H4895 Reduced RifleLoads.” H4895 has proven to be a versatile powder that performs superbly at lower powder charges. Loads in this listing are reduced from full power but still offer mid-range performance.If the goal is minimum recoil, the answer is Hodgdon Trail Boss powder. The second tab under the website DATA menu is titled “Trail Boss ReducedLoads.” Trail Boss can be applied to any cartridge you may want to reload. Trail Boss reloads are very mild and easy to shoot. Designed for Cowboy Action Shooting, Trail Boss has proven to be a great way to get more practice with your big bore hunting rifle. I'm not interested in reduced loads. Since the case is so small and the rifle is going to be at least eight pounds it can't generate much recoil even with full throttle loads. If reduced loads give the best accuracy and still get 1,050 to 1,075 feet per second they're in. Getting more practice with my big bore hunting rifle sounds really good. I figure anyone, at my level, can never get too much practice.
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I'm not interested in reduced loads. It's snarky, and IGNORANT replies like this that put people off of you, Mister. Folks give you good advice, and you argue from ignorance. I'm with Jeff,...why even BOTHER trying to help someone who behaves like that. GTC
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From the hodgdon website. From your questions I'm guessing you don't own a reloading manual. I have at least twenty loading manuals from the very early days clear up to one I purchased a year or so ago. The first is titled “H4895 Reduced RifleLoads.” H4895 has proven to be a versatile powder that performs superbly at lower powder charges. Loads in this listing are reduced from full power but still offer mid-range performance.If the goal is minimum recoil, the answer is Hodgdon Trail Boss powder. The second tab under the website DATA menu is titled “Trail Boss ReducedLoads.” Trail Boss can be applied to any cartridge you may want to reload. Trail Boss reloads are very mild and easy to shoot. Designed for Cowboy Action Shooting, Trail Boss has proven to be a great way to get more practice with your big bore hunting rifle. I'm not interested in reduced loads. Since the case is so small and the rifle is going to be at least eight pounds it can't generate much recoil even with full throttle loads. If reduced loads give the best accuracy and still get 1,050 to 1,075 feet per second they're in. Getting more practice with my big bore hunting rifle sounds really good. I figure anyone, at my level, can never get too much practice. EPIC.... Good luck on shooting the ladders. Please keep us updated!
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joshf303, Good luck on shooting the ladders. Please keep us updated! Thanks. Part of my fun is occasionally posting results here.
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joshf303, Good luck on shooting the ladders. Please keep us updated! Thanks. Part of my fun is occasionally posting results here. If you want a gold medal, please test bouncy balls as the fodder for your slingshot and use a mirror as your target. ROLL FILM! Dave
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Putzes! Real men embrace bruised shoulders and hearing loss. Which I've so far mostly avoided. 
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I'll have to do some more reading. I'm not really sure how to reduce velocity (load subsonic ammunition) while keeping the recoil level the same as full house loads. Is it ok if these subsonic loads are reduced velocity, or would you like them to be the same velocity as your standard loads as well? What was I thinking?
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Sub sonic loads are fun to shoot. Wifey loves to shoot water bottles with them.
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Putzes! Real men embrace bruised shoulders and hearing loss. Which I've so far mostly avoided. What was that again????????
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I'll have to do some more reading. I'm not really sure how to reduce velocity (load subsonic ammunition) while keeping the recoil level the same as full house loads. All you have to do is get a cartridge with a very small powder capacity. Then full throttle loads don't generate much recoil in an eight pound rifle. Is it ok if these subsonic loads are reduced velocity, or would you like them to be the same velocity as your standard loads as well? What was I thinking? I want full throttle loads to run between 1,050 and 1,075 feet per second or so. From what I understand this velocity is about standard with a .300 Blackout. If they are called "reduced" by someone, I don't mind. In today's culture right is called wrong and wrong is called right.
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