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I want to stock up on an easy metering ball powder for accuracy loads in .223 with 50, 52, 53, and 55 grain bullets.
Loads will be used in both a bolt gun and a 20" medium weight AR15.
I'm considering Ramshot X-Terminator, Ramshot TAC, or Hodgdon 335.
The guns will be used for informal target shooting at 100-200 yards and varmint hunting to a max of 300 yards.
Which of these powders, or which other ball powder is suggested??
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X-Terminator is my favorite in those bullet weights.
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Both TAC and X-Terminator are good; I mostly run TAC.
H335 normally provides fine accuracy, but is dirtier-burning and far more temperature sensitive. I've shot as many as 500+ rounds of TAC ammo without cleaning the bore of one of my .223's, and accuracy was just as good at the end. In my experience the bore would have needed scrubbing at least 10 times during the same 500 rounds.
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I've been loving life with CFE-223 with 50-55's in the .223- accurate, clean, and it really does erase copper fouling to a big extent (probably determined a lot by how smooth the bore is).
If any of the LGS's ever get some TAC on the shelf I would dearly love to try it too. But if I'm doomed to using CFE-223 forever I won't feel the least bit disadvantaged.
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TAC has become my favorite for the .223 and all 3 AR's in that caliber love it. Clean burning too.
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I'm a little surprised that benchmark hasn't been mentioned? Why? Are the others that much better?
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OH, just occurred to me that benchmark is NOT a ball powder.
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Ramshot TAC. I've shot a great deal of H335 in my 7TCU and it is a fine powder, but not nearly as clean as TAC.
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I'm a fan of H-335 with 40Ballistics, but I'm old-school.
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TAC is the only powder I use in the 223's my wife and I shoot in our dog town rifles. Clean burning and accurate.
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OH, just occurred to me that benchmark is NOT a ball powder. Nope it isnt, but it meters just as well as any ball powder.
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OH, just occurred to me that benchmark is NOT a ball powder. Nope it isnt, but it meters just as well as any ball powder. N133 is like that too.
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TAC for me.
MD, help me recollect here but didn't you report that one of the bullet makers uses 26.0 grains of TAC for all accuracy testing with their 50 grain bullets?
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I'm not a bullet maker but that load works great for me.
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TAC P
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Jim,
They definitely were a few years ago. Dunno if they had to switch during the TAC shortage after the fire in Belgium.
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Benchmark flows nearly as well as ball......
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Benchmark flows nearly as well as ball......
I've heard a lot of good things about Benchmark but I haven't tried it yet. The LGS doesn't stock TAC so once my supply is gone I'll give it a try.
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Does anybody use Winchester 748?
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