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Thats what I figured. If things ever really got that bad, I could pick up an AR for about .37cents.....

I'll do what I can to keep the cost down so they will be affordable for everyone that needs one...

I think this is something that makes our time in history unique. With today's technology, the government has a much more pronounced ability to know what people are "up to" and take defensive action. With Big Brother in full force, a lot of people are just simply afraid of getting on a schit list. So I think if any grass roots movement ever did occur, it'll happen with much less lead time.

taking your country back ?? from who ? from what period rocckinbar ??

When all else fails, vote from the rooftops.

Not sure what sock puppet you are, but I'll answer anyway.

From the Bolsheviks that are turning it socialist, and fugging with freedoms and liberties our country was founded on.

Any further questions?

It might not make sense to you, but were I to bet, I'd go with this exact scenario is contained within the assured disarmament operational plan that exists.

Under martial law, the president acts as dictator. No legislation would be necessary.

Study history as it does repeat itself.

Are you operating under the delusion that We, the People are still sovereign? We've been ruled, not governed, since 1913.

I think this "Ginther" idiot is the next evolution of this LagunazuliSako azzwhole,....

tread lightly, his training might "kick in" at any time.

GTC

I've BEEN in some pretty nasty ground combat. The worst thing that can happen is to have the adversary anticipate your moves. When it gets up close and personal it makes a huge difference in the outcome.

Y'all seem to think the it's going to be armies and paramilitary groups facing off with each other.

So you believe that millions of Americans, armed Americans, would just sit back whining and crying and obeying the dictates of Dear Leader to turn in their guns or starve to death?

What nonsense.

Perhaps, however, you are projecting your own actions in such a scenario on 100,000,000 million Americans.

As for history, I've read many, many history books over the years -- a hobby of mine -- and history does not bear out such a scenario as your ideas.

L.W.

I'm going with your reading historical fantasy. Try reading about the Iranian Genocide.

If you have no clue of Stalin's forced famine, stick with gun books.

You might not realize this, but government CONTROLS your life right now 24/7/365. If you do anything or buy anything, it's because government allows you. Try modifying your home without government's permission and let us know how it turns out. Try drinking a cold beer on a hot day on a California beach, and let us know how much your fine was. Try drinking a cold beer in a pubic park near your home, and let us know how it turns out.

No government is secure unless it can control its people. The primary method government uses to control us is law.

I do believe most gun owners will voluntarily comply with gun confiscation laws. The one's that won't will be televised as examples as governmental agents forcibly take guns just like they did in New Orleans.

You must've missed the Arcadia, IA gun confiscation drill. I had a friend who lived in Iowa at that time. He told me that everyone there knew that governmental agents were practicing confiscating AMERICANS' guns.

You're awfully naive if you think that the federal government does not have a detailed gun confiscation plan in place.

So, tell us, Rambo, what the eff are you gonna do with an Apache helicopter circling your home? Do you really believe that government won't make an example outta you? Well, maybe you missed US military involvement in the incineration of the Branch Dividians.


Why would you suppose that neocon Bush 43 signed an agreement with Canada that allows its military to breach our northern border to quell an insurrection in our country? What did Bush 43 was going to happen in our country that would require a foreign military to quell? You are aware that when a country sends its military into another country that it's a declaration of war, aren't you?

My advice to you is to think beyond your mind's horizons. Ask yourself what government would not do to prevent another civil war.

Here, I'll help you because it's the way I roll, and I'm bored: the first thing that WILL be terminated will be all forms of civilian communication: Internet, telephonic, TV, radio, ham radio, any device that can be used to communicate. Gas and electricity services will be terminated. That will be followed by termination of all food and fuel shipments. This will happen very quickly, as in minutes. You'll literally be left cold, tired, and hungry. And you think you're gonna fight?

Never forget that our government will do anything necessary to control us, for should it lose control, it will cease to exist. Do you think government will allow that to happen?

I have direct experience with governmental response to large-scale insurrection. You wouldn't do well in such a condition.

"Never forget that our government will do anything necessary to control us, for should it lose control, it will cease to exist. Do you think government will allow that to happen?"

Tyranny? Over-reach? The Founders would not be happy.

I think you discount the fact that these troops, national guard and law enforcement all have families. They will do what the police did during Katrina. As time wore on, conditions worsened, and more and more people were victimizing others because the could get away with it, the police left their posts and went home to care for their families.

A question SakoAV;

Do you believe all of that will be accomplished with the support of Intel, Microsoft, Verizon, Samsung, Apple, Comcast, CBS, NBC, Clear Channel Radio, SiriusXM, Pacific Gas & Electric, ConEd, Union Pacific and BNSF RR's, Swift trucking, ADM, Tyson, McDonald's, Exxon/Mobile, Shell, and every other moneymaking establishment that contributed to the Clinton foundation, the campaign coffers of every member of both houses of Congress, not to mention the state and local politicians?

I for one believe that even should an uprising occur, the govt will be reigned in to some extent by the moneyed interests of the "free" world. They will push for some sort of attempt to quell the revolt without destroying the economy for the vast majority of their consumers.

Those who will rise to power know who butters their bread. If the economy should collapse completely, where will the pols obtain their funding?

From my point of view, times are no longer the same as at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th centuries. Despots of the type that destroyed the Russian and Eastern European nations will not exist in the USA of today or the near future. There may be despots, but they will seek to keep the money flowing in.

Perhaps the situation will involve taking, by force, some weapons from a percentage of the population, then (as others have pointed out) just restricting access to them or the necessary components to feed them, a la Britain-Australia and a few others. Then continue a war of attrition against the remaining holdouts. Companies like Lockheed/Martin and Blackwater would be more than willing to help rounding them up or "neutralizing" them. Then the general public can still have their TV and smartphones, Big Macs, and electricity for their "stuff".

Geno

Between Gov't control of the currency and media, plus ubiquitous surveillance (yes, the cameras you line your home & business with count in that) there will not be a widespread rebellion. Widespread rebellion will only be possible if the currency collapses.

Where did you get this information? Post a cite.

It would be the law enforcement equivalent of desertion, which would trigger termination.

Good Morning, Geno,

There is no doubt in my mind that the scenario I've presented is optimistic should Americans refuse to comply with confiscation and decide to resist with violence.

All of the companies you've mentioned are regulated by the federal government, FCC, public utilities, etc. Even if they weren't, martial law would accord the de facto dictator to do what he deems necessary to quell an insurrection.

Moneyed interests would be worthless if the government is no longer in control, which government will never allow to happen.

Right-wing extremist crackpot, if he exist at all...

Phil