Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire How can we find out if God exists?

It's great knowing you never said "Godd_m".

History cannot be presented on demand repeatedly so your rule is incomplete.

you have no 'ph_kk!ng' clue.

I do have no clue as to why unbelievers flock to dispute those who believe, like moths to a campfire.

You are correct in your belief. He said in the Bible He is nonexistant to those who don't believe.

Many are called, few are chosen (to believe).

Thats when it gets fun, when people who dont agree with you are deemed stupid, or unworthy.

Its all downhill from there.

We live in times that promote atheistic perspective due to prosperity. Recall Judges. That book shows when times were good, people fell away and became less dependent and grateful regarding God and turned to exalt themselves: then things came crashing down until He send a Judge to save them. Today with our institutions of higher "education", and professional opportunities, it's Judges all over again, but this time He won't send a judge, He will Judge and that's gonna suck for many.



That's pretty good and sadly true.

“How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, “This is better than we thought!
The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant?”
Instead they say, “No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way.”
A religion, old or new, that stressed the magnificence of the Universe as revealed by modern science might be able to draw forth reserves of reverence and awe hardly tapped by the conventional faiths.”
― Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space

To see how bent out of shape most self proclaimed unbelievers get at the mention of something the claim to not believe makes me wonder if they are as sure and comfortable in their belief as I am.

Just be courteous and dont bring it up.

to see how many 'believers' seek attention and affirmation makes me wonder if they are sure of their beliefs at all.

Jim is correct. keep your personal beliefs personal and it's all good.

They deny people of the world are turning against the spiritual Israel and deny the nations of the world are turning against the physical nation of Israel.

The Lord has blinded them. John 12:40-42

Jer 5:21

I note that the arseholes that made up stories made a living from it...or do you really think you need this to pray in.

Correct Lynn...he is another filthy maggot like ringy-thingy.

We seek affirmation from unbelievers? That thought borders on insanity.

This thread was started to examine prophecies of the Bible that have come true and are often historically proven. Can you even comprehend that? You think the christians on here seek to be led by the blind?

comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?

That might apply if there were some "evidence mounting", but that's not the case.

It's just people talking about what they think is real, but cannot really prove in any way.

Religions are all man-made superstitions, and they all claim to be "the only way".

To proceed.

After Israel became a nation again and Jesus brought the Good News which they rejected He spoke prophecy of their coming subjugation again. Luke 21:23,24. There will be a great distress on this land and the people will fall by the sword and be led captive by all the nations.

And Matt 23:36 Truly... all these things will happen to this generation.

40 years later it did. History verifies these prophecies.Titus and the Roman Legions destroyed Jerusalem. For 2000 years the sons of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob wandered the earth with no homeland.

Deut 28:46 Ampliphied- They (judgements) were on them (for a sign to other nations) for a wonder and upon your descendants forever.

John Locke in "The Reasonableness of Christianity" argued that there was in fact, credible evidence, that was altogether conclusive.

Daniel 9 and the time line from the decree to rebuild to the Messiah is just one among many.

https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Prince-Marvelous-Concerning-Antichrist/dp/0615965881

So his "evidence" that the bible and god is real is something he read in the bible?

Seriously?

Carl Sagan was not the sort of writer, I ever found particularly inspiring. His wife collaborated on most of his better books and co-wrote the COSMOS series. When he divorced Ann Druyan the quality of his work dropped tremendously IMHO.

The thing Sagan misses in my view is that a good Christian can look at whatever unfolds in Science and turn around and say "Ah hah! This is yet another part of God's Universe unfolding." God is everything, so whatever we find must be of God.

Is anything we find going to "prove" or for that matter "disprove" the existence of God? No. That proof can only come from Faith or the lack thereof.

More on sewing mustard seeds: (I've got mustard seeds on the brain today, sorry!)

Jesus did a lot of his teaching through parable. A lot of folks question why, and there is a school of thought that says that Jesus did this so that only the Chosen would understand. These are the folks who hold to predestination. I don't. To me, we have choices in this world and those choices have consequences. We can choose to live a life whereby we get the jokes, or we can go through life where the Word of God bounces off us like talking Quantum Physics to my beagle.

By the way, I frequently discuss these matters with Lily, my beagle. She has taught me that it all comes down to love-- love and food. If it is not about love or food, she really does not think it's worthwile discussing. She is a dog who understands Supreme Love. She gets the joke.

Another school says Jesus was telling the apostles that the rabble would only get the parable, but his initiates would get Jesus' deeper teaching afterwards.

Let's look at what he says:



My view on this is that you either get the joke or you don't. Jesus is telling his disciples basic cowboy smarts: "If you can't pour piss out of a boot, having the direction written on the heal won't do ya' any good."