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again, comprehension isn't your strength.


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just keep sucking in that oxygen, from there we can all find common ground, surely?


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Originally Posted by toad
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To see how bent out of shape most self proclaimed unbelievers get at the mention of something the claim to not believe makes me wonder if they are as sure and comfortable in their belief as I am.


to see how many 'believers' seek attention and affirmation makes me wonder if they are sure of their beliefs at all.

Jim is correct. keep your personal beliefs personal and it's all good.


Or the unbelievers could skip this kind of thread and leave it to the believers to discuse things they believe in.


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wasn't there a subforum for this kind of topic? something like 'Christ at the Campfire' where these topics could be discussed in peace? what happened there?

I seem to remember it didn't work out too well, even without those pesky 'non-believers'


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Originally Posted by toad
isn't there a subforum for this kind of topic? something like 'Christ at the Campfire' where these topics could be discussed in peace?


You have to be a member to post there. So the answer, generally, is "no".


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Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by toad
isn't there a subforum for this kind of topic? something like 'Christ at the Campfire' where these topics could be discussed in peace?


You have to be a member to post there. So the answer, generally, is "no".


so why isn't this topic in that forum? the members don't want the pet monkey to $hit there too?


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Can't help it, huh? Just gotta look. Then like a lib, ya just gotta piss.


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'public forum' is too complex for ya?


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Jump from tall building, pray to god to save you, answer forthcoming


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Originally Posted by carbon12
There you have it.

Narcissism, persecution complex and victimhood.

Classic Safariman.

A few more posts and off to the Free Classifieds.


Has more of a Raisuli stink to me, but I don't recall if his any of his preaching had a religious bent.

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Does God exist?

Ask Him with a mind open to any answer.

A God incapable of tevealing Himself to an HONEST questioner would not be worthy of the title.

Yeah.......it really is that simple.


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Originally Posted by toad
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isn't there a subforum for this kind of topic? something like 'Christ at the Campfire' where these topics could be discussed in peace?


You have to be a member to post there. So the answer, generally, is "no".


so why isn't this topic in that forum? the members don't want the pet monkey to $hit there too?


I guess you didn't get the part about the answer being generally "no".

Why is there a question in the general forum about herbal and aliphatic medicine when some believe in it and others try to warn them about it? Because around a real campfire almost anything is discussed.


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and we are discussing right now. just because you or the OP don't like how this discussion is going doesn't mean it isn't a discussion.


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Originally Posted by toad
and we are discussing right now. just because you or the OP don't like how this discussion is going doesn't mean it isn't a discussion.


I don't know where you get some of your information. I couldn't care less "how this discussion is going". Like some of the other posters I find it interesting so many don't answer the original poster; they attack.


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I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother. ....a mans enemies will be of his own
household.....(meaning, your relatives would prefer you to be acceptable to them and like them rather than as me). Whoever doesn't be a christian is not worthy of me.

Then Luke 9:26 Whosoever is ashamed of me .... (afraid of offending others?-afraid to repeat my words as they may make other uncomfortable and subsequently badmouth us christians?)


I tell you what, Neighbor, you go over to Saudi Arabia, find a street corner and carry on like you are doing here and this entire forum will applaud your bravery, and admire your conviction.

[but I can sorta picture God shaking his head and thinking;"idiot".]


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^^^^LOL!

Originally Posted by Ringman

I don't know where you get some of your information. I couldn't care less "how this discussion is going". Like some of the other posters I find it interesting so many don't answer the original poster; they attack.


when the OP answers his own question in post number one, he ain't looking for answers. he's looking for affirmation.


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Originally Posted by toad
^^^^LOL!

Originally Posted by Ringman

I don't know where you get some of your information. I couldn't care less "how this discussion is going". Like some of the other posters I find it interesting so many don't answer the original poster; they attack.


when the OP answers his own question in post number one, he ain't looking for answers. he's looking for affirmation.


Then why are you participating? blush


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'open forum' too complex for you, too? let's use your campfire analogy. when you pick a topic to discuss on the campfire, don't bitch about who joins in.


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Originally Posted by Snyper
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There are only 2 choices: God exists or he does not exist. Can you rely on using only your head to decide?

Lets say that God does not exist. You have 2 choices. You can incorrectly have faith that he does or you can believe that he doesn't. So what if you're wrong? Believers will live a different life on earth then die. End of story. Non-believers will also die. End of their story, too. It's all the same in the end so the only difference is how you live.

Lets say that God (and Jesus) do exist. Again you have 2 choices but the outcomes are radically different this time. If you believe, when you die you will spend eternity in heaven with the Lord, a glorious place free of pain and sin. If you don't believe, you will be confronted with the Lord's judgement and an eternity in a lake of fire. Yes, the Bible does say exactly that.

Are you willing to put your eternal soul at risk because of your opinions? If you believe and are wrong, no big deal. If you don't believe and are wrong, there's no turning back. Your destiny is decided and the pain is terrible. You have the choice while you live.

So are you praying towards Mecca 5 times a day?
If not you can't get to paradise.
The Koran says that.

Or does a religion's rules only apply to to it's followers and no one else?
Islam, Bhuddism, Hinduism, Mormanism, JW's, all the rest...they have one thing in common - you have to work your way to heaven. Christianity stands alone. The Bible makes it very clear that you CANNOT work your way in. You get in by faith in Christ alone. Nothing else can do it. No amount of good works can get you there. The pope himself can't get there if he hasn't accepted the sacrifice of Jesus and placed his faith in Jesus for salvation.
All religions outside of Christianity are actually fairly interchangeable in that you're required to earn it. So, it's not a choice of one religion out of hundreds. There are only 2 choices, works or faith.


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Originally Posted by toad
and we are discussing right now. just because you or the OP don't like how this discussion is going doesn't mean it isn't a discussion.


Huh?

Aren't you the one who was just asking why this isn't in another "members only" forum?

The open mindedness here seems to be lacking...

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