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So are you saying all authentic atheists do not value human life in it's most vulnerable state?

The Bible is timeless, but not without growth and change.

That is the kind of double speak only worthy of Gus.

I believe that the "unpardonable sin" you are referring to is a lot more prevalent than is commonly held by Preachers.For instance:

Were I to SINCERELY take credit for something that I knew was the work of the Spirit, I would be guilty of that sin. It would be beyond God's ability to pardon, but not because of a lack of Mercy.

The Holy Spirit is the source of my Spiritual life. In the example I've given, I'd be just like a child holding his breath until he dies. A parent can't breathe for him.

Now what is the result of Spiritual Death? Not being willing to use words I can't comprehend [like eternal] puts me at a disadvantage but you deserve as truthful an answer as I can give.

Right now, you and I are like seatmates on a flight, so obviously our immediate destination is the same.... physical death. I know that I have a connecting flight to a final destination once we land. The ticket for that flight was arranged by the same source as this one, and I'm enjoying this flight, so I'm certain I'll like the next one as well.

You tell me that Los Angeles is as far as you're going.

Not at all. Just pointing out the weirdness in your concept of God.

Actually, you did, so there is no honesty in your responses. Just insult and hubris. I have better things to do than continue this further.

Blasphemy is a far cry from "cursing" the Holy Spirit.

Is there a sin that cannot be forgiven?
Yes, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, is any sin that a person clings to by continually resisting the convicting power of the Holy Spirit. Keep in mind that there is not one specific sin that is unforgivable, such as lying, stealing or murder, but rather a perpetual hardening of the heart and willfully sinning against God and man (1 Timothy 4:2; Titus 1:15). In Acts 7:51 Stephen says the following to the Pharisees, "You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you.” In a nutshell the unforgivable, or unpardonable, sin is any sin that a person doesn’t want to give up, confess, or even ask forgiveness for and additionally doesn’t want to hear any more about it from the Holy Spirit.

Blasphemy is a far cry from "cursing" the Holy Spirit.

Is there a sin that cannot be forgiven?
Yes, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, is any sin that a person clings to by continually resisting the convicting power of the Holy Spirit. Keep in mind that there is not one specific sin that is unforgivable, such as lying, stealing or murder, but rather a perpetual hardening of the heart and willfully sinning against God and man (1 Timothy 4:2; Titus 1:15). In Acts 7:51 Stephen says the following to the Pharisees, "You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you.” In a nutshell the unforgivable, or unpardonable, sin is any sin that a person doesn’t want to give up, confess, or even ask forgiveness for and additionally doesn’t want to hear any more about it from the Holy Spirit.

Not even close to an answer but I appreciate the sentiment.

With your line of reasoning, an authentic atheist that aborts his/her fetus is not committing murder.

O K...... You may not like the correct answer, either, but here it is:

I don't know, it doesn't apply to me.

That has always been my take on it as well. The Holy Spirit is to lead and guide us,this ignoring and refusing becomes blasphemy. The sin that cannot be forgiven is the refusal to ask forgiveness.


We are not to take this however that each sin requires a plea of forgiveness.To do that places salvation in the ability of the one asking.I believe then that the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is more along the line of the refusal of the work of the Holy Spirit which is to dwell within the person,to become one with him. This is the union which takes care of all sins,past and future.

So, you are saying the unborn life that is aborted was named in the womd and made by the vessel that carries it. The bottle does not make the grapes that make the wine. Neither does the farmer make the wheat he harvests. He planted seed made by God and nurtured it.

Good answer.

Naturally, that would be expected from living the shackle free life.

I may not remember it right, but it seems to me that this passage of scripture was sort of linked to the Jews claiming Jesus cast out demons by using a demonic spirit rather than the Holy Spirit.

That, coupled with pride being the reason given for Satan being cast out is why I view the deal the way I do....... Denying credit to the Spirit for works done by His power.

As you have sometimes moved from a strict traditional interruption of scripture based on your heart knowledge of God,so have I here.

Along this line of reasoning, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit could easily be the denying of Christ as savior.

Slippery slope but the ride is most likely worth while