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By that do you mean he doesn't have enough for a down payment for this Yellow Avalanche?

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...s/9193461/AWESOME_AVALANCHE_for_sale_Can



Best looking/running Avalanche in the state! Maybe in the US! ( maybe a LITTLE Hyperbole.... smile ) but true in my opinion. Gets lots of looks and compliments. Year model is 2003 but looks, runs and rides like much newer. Slight lift kit (leveling only) in the front to level it and accomodate bigger aggressive tires, 11.5x33x16's. Bright Yellow with black body armour and custom shiny black 16x8 wheels. Almost brand new set of TOYO Mud Terrain tires, 10 ply AND a full set of Hankook mud and snow tires with double studs AND siping come with it! Z-71 package means that in addition to 4WD you get a limited slip differential and skid plates. BOSE surround sound system, 6 disk CD changer, Heated Leather seats with adjustable lumbar pads on both front seats, 12 way electric adjustments, all of the compute gizmos and tracking systems, this truck is a lot like my old (miss this one) Caddilac CTS but with very good off road and bad weather capabilities and safety. ALSO, I had a custom winch added to the rear compartment for help in loading ORV's, motorcycles, other large heavy loads. Was a handy device when I first bought the truck and was doing more outdoor stuff. 204,000 miles on it, but 99% of that was my business use when I was an active Estate planner and travelling over the Blues all the time to places like Enterprise, up into Wenatchee etc at all times. In addition, I had a brand new, zero miles Chevrolet/GM Crate motor installed BY GM MECHANICS three years ago at the 164,000 mile point. Valves and lifters were getting noisy so a new complete motor went in. This Motor only has 40,000 mi on it. Transmission, motor and differentials all changed over to Ams Oil full Synthetic oils and lubricants. Perfect maintenence, upkeep etc. Since I bought it in 2009 with 94,000 miles on it. This has been my business work vehicle, my play vehicle and my baby. But I think I need a full size Diesel truck now. $8995/offer, can consider shootin irons as partial trade if that will help you buy this truck. Have clean and clear title, never salvaged, never wrecked. Has the towing package, and I have easily towed both my last owned 25 foot trailer and my previous camp trailer of 29 feet and 7,000lbs. Sold them both but this Fuel injected 5.3 Litre V-8 gets good fuel mileage, but will tow almost any reasonable pull trailer. This is the truck that Rattler, Asphaltangel and I all took to Tennesee and back. Zero glitches that trip, and if you want to buy it and have it delivered to Upper Maine or NY or Florida, I will drive it there and will have zero difficulty on that trip as far as the vehicle is concerned. $8995/offer, can take a couple of guns as partial trade if that will help you.

I tried to post up some photos, but it seems like photobuckets page or site is down and out right now. I will try to post pictures later in the day, assuming photobucket gets back on line soon.

PM me for some cell phone pics or other questions, details etc.

This is a truly great truck. Comfortable, reliable x 1000 and very off road capable all at the same time. I don't need the winch, off road capability etc. any longer. I hope this one goes to a good home.

AS,

You are wrong…. Again!

This is what you posted: “

“Unlike Ringman, you are dishonest in your reading of the words on the paper.

Here God explicitly states that Nebuchadnezzar would completely sack and destroy the city of Tyre and that Tyre's land would never be built upon again. However, this never occurred. After a 13-year siege, Tyre compromised with Nebuchadnezzar[wp] and accepted his authority without being destroyed. Despite being conquered and razed by Alexander the Great 240 years later,[2] Tyre still exists today.”


No, I am not dishonest in “my reading of the words on paper.” Go back and read it for yourself. Don’t take some other atheist site’s take on it. Read it for yourself. See what it says, not what some dimwit contortionist says about it. I don’t think you even read it. If you did and still make that statement you have a reading comprehension problem or you are the one that is dishonest.

So, read it and come back to me on this. We’ll see if you can get it right.

Further, would you have us believe that the prophecies against Tyre were against the ground and the bricks and the roads or against the evil city-state?

Tyre the great city-state, is no longer in existence but the rubble of it is. Was Great Tyre destroyed? Yes. Did Ezekiel prophesy correctly? Yes.

The answer remains yes for all but the overly zealous anti-god contortionists.

If a fisherman built a hut on that site would God’s prophecy against Tyre be seen as unfulfilled? Well, for the blind man, maybe it would make sense.

Wouldn't give her the sweat off my balls let alone money, just put the douche bag on ignore, works for me. I don't understand why people even respond to these trolls in the first place, if they were met with silence every time they post their crap they would eventually give up and take their sorry a s s e s elsewhere.

Time to have a look at where you get your funding yet, John ?
...you know it's all there,a damned interesting bio, too.

...lemme re-phrase, a somewhat damning bio.

GTC

Read the words on the page, in the context in which it was written, and it simply didn't happen.

If it's ambiguous, it's not a prophecy.

antelope_sniper,



What?! We're in agreement.

Nope, it is very clear. I still don't think you read it yourself.

The passage clearly tells what Neb will do and then switches to the first person, ie God. It goes on to tell what God will do to finish the destruction of Tyre. There are two actors in the passage; one is Neb and the other is God.

It is not ambiguous but you either don't see it or refuse to acknowledge it.

So, what about the fisherman's hut? I guess in your mind that proves the prophecy as failed. Correct?

Consider:

1. Would not Biblical prophecy that is not ambiguous be antithetical to God's desire to be believed in by Faith alone?.

2. Is it not a Christian tenant that Faith is the only ticket to salvation?

3. Would not a Biblical prophecy, that is unambiguous and inerrant and thus prove God, seriously undermine the overarching underpinnings of Christianity?

4. God spoke in ambiguity on purpose.

5. Ambiguity is proof of the Christian God.

6. QED

I've got to get to work, but I will play for a little while.

In your point #1, you state that it is God's desire to be believed in by faith alone. I do not believe this is correct at all. One can believe in God and have not a faith that brings salvation. Without going to find all the verses, I will say that, in general, most Christians would report that a belief in God comes first, then a sense of accountability to God and then one finds faith to accept the salvation offered through Jesus.

Until we can reach some sort of understanding on this, it is fruitless to pursue your other line of reasoning.

Swoosh.

Post was a spoof, son.

Arguing prophecy is only worth the entertainment.

I would have thought *undermine the overarching underpinnings* a dead give-a-way.

Elect Hillary and see if Armageddon comes.

OK. You start...now.

Maybe you and cross would like to put up some money to cover the bet your mouth is making? Would you let curdog or ringman if he is agreeable, to hold the bet?

You both seem pretty sure of yourselves, regarding me and Him. Why dont we just antee up and see how certain you two are in your beliefs?

Surely your blasphemy as to me being someone other than who I am would be more certain than your blasphemy as to Jesus Christ, who has a fairly famous book showing the accuracy of prophecy concerning him.

Historically you have appeared to be a pretty smart, if somewhat dishonest, atheist. Perhaps its time to put the dick to the first idea.

Give a fool enough rope....

Granted, AS, it took a long rope.

The Lord fulfills the fruit of my lips.

There is not evidence, therefore God exists??

Sure, makes perfect sense,

I was just using a running joke to call you a huckster.

You've just proved good evidence for that.