Active shooter situation near Cascade Mall in Burlington, Wash., police say; suspect described as Hispanic male wearing grey; last seen walking towards I-5 - @wspd7pio
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.
There are some pics out of the guy. The media tried to initially say "Hispanic". He does not appear to be. Time will tell.
Something is pretty sketchy with this one, but as with all things during the initial aftermath, information is often not accurate and lots of thing need verified for accuracy.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.
"The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II
the rifle does not appear to have a DBM (such as an AK banana clip)
Again very blurry but it looks like a Marlin 60 (22LR?)
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"The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II
Antelope_sniper: Those were my first thoughts but according to reports the suspect is "hispanic"! Sad. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
If he was shooting up a rival gang, that's still a possibility.
This is local to me. Clean low crime area, used to be a small rural town that is growing a lot now with new businesses all over, but we've started having a couple gang shootings in the last few years. I suspect this one is gang related as well. Staying frosty, and packing every day, as always.
There are some pics out of the guy. The media tried to initially say "Hispanic". He does not appear to be. Time will tell.
Something is pretty sketchy with this one, but as with all things during the initial aftermath, information is often not accurate and lots of thing need verified for accuracy.
What sex is his goat?
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
This article says the shooting happened in the makeup department in a Macy's store. This sounds targeted attack rather than random shooter to me. A domestic dispute or maybe an angry employee of some sort?
This article says the shooting happened in the makeup department in a Macy's store. This sounds targeted attack rather than random shooter to me. A domestic dispute or maybe an angry employee of some sort?
It will be interesting to see the names of the victims. The majority of targets attacks happen within the same race. If one or more of the female victims were Hispanic, perhaps it was a Hispanic lovers spat. If they all sound like something else, that's less likely.
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Dude probably took the rifle that was laying around, loaded up, and shot her. Curious if the one man killed was her new boyfriend, a manager he suspected of getting to close to his girl, or just a guy who got in the way.
Terribly sad.
BMT
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"The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II
I shake my head when the media or someone says they look "Hispanic." What does a Hispanic look like? It is like saying someone looks "Cajun." Hispanic is an ethnicity. Saying he looked Latino would be more accurate. He could be Brazilian which would nix the Hispanic thingy, but I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be Middle Eastern or similar decent when this is all figured out.
Seriously though, the perp in the picture looks more like a friggin raghead to me.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
Not too many ragheads around there but a chitload of wetbacks. He yelled a woman's name before shooting so it appears to be a targeted hit. I'm sure if he yelled a name that there's a clue as to nationality.
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Not too many ragheads around there but a chitload of wetbacks. He yelled a woman's name before shooting so it appears to be a targeted hit. I'm sure if he yelled a name that there's a clue as to nationality.
It is interesting that there is almost zero information on it the following morning.
Probably because the Propaganda Corps can't spin it to fit the leftist narrative or it causes damage to it. Either way they aren't going to volunteer any information if it can't be used to their advantage.
The liberal press is sure hoping the suspect is a Mexican.
Hillary and the Halfican have forbid them to use the "terrorist" word
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
People who believed they may have lost loved ones were being sequestered at a church three blocks from the mall, where counselors and a golden retriever therapy dog were present.
People who believed they may have lost loved ones were being sequestered at a church three blocks from the mall, where counselors and a golden retriever therapy dog were present.
Somebody say it ain't so.
Yea,
Who does that to a good hunting breed?
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I'd read that his name is Arcan Cetin, moved here from Turkey when young, been a mental case before. We'll likely read that "recently he's been more radical", or some such crap.
I'd read that his name is Arcan Cetin, moved here from Turkey when young, been a mental case before. We'll likely read that "recently he's been more radical", or some such crap.
People who believed they may have lost loved ones were being sequestered at a church three blocks from the mall, where counselors and a golden retriever therapy dog were present.
Somebody say it ain't so.
Lol. PETA just went to DEFCAT 4.
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
But the talking heads are still stumbling over themselves with "we're still trying to determine his motivation", etc. As a bonus, Gabrielle Giffords and The World's Stupidest Astronaut are capitalizing on it with comments about Unfortunate Gun Violence.
As opposed to Stabbing Violence, Bus Violence, Pressure Cooker Violence
People who believed they may have lost loved ones were being sequestered at a church three blocks from the mall, where counselors and a golden retriever therapy dog were present.
Somebody say it ain't so.
Yea,
Who does that to a good hunting breed?
Good hunting breed? Hahaha. Funniest thing I've read on the fire in a week!
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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.
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I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
I'd read that his name is Arcan Cetin, moved here from Turkey when young, been a mental case before. We'll likely read that "recently he's been more radical", or some such crap.
Another damn foreigner. Who would have thunk it 🙈 Obama's reaction 🙊🙉🙈
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"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
People who believed they may have lost loved ones were being sequestered at a church three blocks from the mall, where counselors and a golden retriever therapy dog were present.
Somebody say it ain't so.
Lol. PETA just went to DEFCAT 4.
OK, the reason for this thread existing is horrible... but that schidt almost made me crap my drawers, Aces!
It's apparently ok on some college campuses now to segregate blacks from whites, so the blacks will have a "safe space" and not get their feelers hurt if a white guy says something insensitive.
OTOH, suggesting that we put tighter restrictions on Muslim immigration, seeing as how we are having weekly terrorist events is TOTALLY racist.....
I know it has been confirmed that the shooter was born in Turkey and migrated to the U.S. but I have yet to see any confirmation that he is in fact a Muslim.
Wife's dad, a protestant minister, spent some time in Turkey with the Red Cross back in the late '60s. He said although most Turks were Muslims there also were a fair number of Christian Turks back then.
I know it has been confirmed that the shooter was born in Turkey and migrated to the U.S. but I have yet to see any confirmation that he is in fact a Muslim.
Wife's dad, a protestant minister, spent some time in Turkey with the Red Cross back in the late '60s. He said although most Turks were Muslims there also were a fair number of Christian Turks back then.
Ok, so there is a 2.2% chance he isn't. Laffin,,
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The established presence of Islam in the region that now constitutes modern Turkey dates back to the latter half of the 11th century, when the Seljuks started expanding into eastern Anatolia. According to religiosity polls, 97.8% of the population identifies as Muslim,and only 2% is non-religious.
He's a legal resident with three priors for domestic violence aaginst his father and a drunk driving conviction as well. By failing to revoke his green card and deport this undesireable, the Feds are responsible for the 5 deaths.
When is the government going to make the safety of its citizens the priority instead of the "rights" of immigrants, legal or not?
Answer: fugging never as long as the libs control the White House. Hillary has declared that everyone in the world has a right to move to the U.S if they so desire, all 7 billion of 'em.
Those of you inclined to throw you vote in the sh*t can by voting for a third party candidate instead of the best one that actually has a chance of winning (and has declared his intention of getting a handle on immigration) ought to think about that.
Documents: Mall shooting suspect confesses to slayings
By MARTHA BELLISLE - Associated Press - Monday, September 26, 2016
MOUNT VERNON, Wash. (AP) — The young man accused of killing five people in a Washington state shopping mall before leading authorities on a nearly 24-hour manhunt has confessed to the slayings, according to court documents released Monday.
The documents filed in Skagit Court say Arcan Cetin told detectives who interviewed him that "he did bring the rifle into Macy's and shot all 5 victims."
The 20-year-old was arrested Saturday evening following the slayings at the Cascade Mall in Burlington, on Friday evening.
Cetin, who faces five charges of premeditated murder, will be making an initial court appearance late Monday morning. Authorities are asking that he be held on a $2 million bond.
Cetin was described by a neighbor as so "creepy, rude and obnoxious" that she kept a Taser by her front door. He also had a string of run-ins with the law in recent years, including charges he assaulted his stepfather.
As investigators tried to piece together information on Cetin, a picture emerged of a troubled young man. Court records show more than a half-dozen criminal cases in Island County alone since 2013.
Authorities said the gunman in the attack at the Cascade Mall opened fire in the department store's cosmetics department Friday night, killing a man and four females ranging from a teenager to a senior citizen. The killer then fled.
Cetin said nothing and appeared "zombie-like" when he was taken into custody on a sidewalk outside his apartment complex some 30 miles away in Oak Harbor by a sheriff's officer who recognized him as the suspect in the rampage, authorities said.
Cetin immigrated to the U.S. from Turkey and is a legal permanent resident, officials said. He is expected to make an initial court appearance Monday.
As the surrounding area absorbed news of the arrest, critical questions remained, including the gunman's motive. The FBI said early Saturday that there was no indication the shooting was terrorism, but local authorities said later in the day that they were ruling nothing out.
On Sept. 17, a 20-year-old man stabbed 10 people at a Minnesota mall before being shot to death by an off-duty police officer.
Authorities said they are investigating the attack by Dahir Ahmed Adan as a possible act of terrorism.
On Monday, nine people were wounded when a man opened fire near a Houston strip mall. Police said the gunman, who was shot and killed by police, was a lawyer who was having problems with his law firm.
In Washington state, investigators searched Cetin's vehicle and the apartment complex Sunday and were seen carrying boxes from a rear, upstairs unit. The four-unit building was surrounded with yellow police tape. Detectives would not say what they found.
Amber Cathey, 21, lived in an apartment next to Cetin for the past three months and said she was so frightened by him that she complained to apartment management and kept a stun gun handy. Cathey said she blocked him on Snapchat after he sent her a photo of his crotch.
"He was really creepy, rude and obnoxious," Cathey said. She said she would try to avoid him by walking the long way around to her apartment if she saw his car in the parking lot. The two were in high school together as well, and Cathey said he acted the same way then.
The Seattle Times reported (http://bit.ly/2cWhxJY) that court records show Cetin faced three charges of assaulting his stepfather. The newspaper said Cetin also was arrested on drunken driving charges. It gave no details on when the arrests took place or how the cases may have been resolved.
In the assault case, Cetin was told by a judge last December that he was not to possess a gun, the newspaper reported. However, the stepfather urged the judge not to impose a no-contact order, saying his stepson was "going through a hard time."
Attempts to reach Cetin's family for comment by phone and social media weren't immediately successful. It wasn't clear if Cetin had a lawyer yet. A man who came to the door Sunday morning at an Oak Harbor address believed to be where Cetin's stepfather and mother live asked an Associated Press reporter to leave the property.
Police said that they interviewed the suspect's former girlfriend, who has worked a different Macy's. No other details were released, including her name.
Social media accounts apparently belonging to Cetin showed he had a fondness for the military and video games.
A Twitter account showed, among other things, selfies, photos of him in younger years and pictures of Turkish food. He once participated in paintball and said he "can't wait for Halo 5," the first-person shooter video game. He also tweeted: "Shout out to the ROTC peeps." A Facebook account showed he liked military-related sites.
Cetin also appeared to have blogs on the site Tumblr that had not been updated in many months. They included seemingly random posts about serial killer Ted Bundy, a collection of selfies, the top-secret Area 51 Cold War test site and photos of Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and Islamic State group leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. The two blogs linked back to each other and one of them linked to what appeared to be his Twitter page.
Oak Harbor is a city of 22,000 on Whidbey Island with many military families associated with the nearby Naval Air Station Whidbey Island.
"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
"Cetin is accused of using a Ruger 10/22 with a 25-round magazine. His father told police that his Ruger 10/22 was missing, along with some ammunition, court records say."
"Cetin is accused of using a Ruger 10/22 with a 25-round magazine. His father told police that his Ruger 10/22 was missing, along with some ammunition, court records say."
"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
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