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I'm missing a fast twist 22 cal bolt rifle in my safe. The use would be a fun toy for medium/long range paper/steel at the range and in the hills. I'm sitting on a few thousand 77gr bullets. I bought a heavy 8 twist krieger blank on the forums. I have two "donors" I have in mind. The first is a custom Rem 700 in 308 that I just don't shoot much as I have a few 308s and the cartridge just doesn't do much for me anymore. I'm considering a 22-250 or 22-250AI chambering if I chose this rifle. The second is a 70s or 80s benchrest 222 on a 6-digit Rem 700 that I dropped into an AICS as my "trainer". Super accurate with 52 nosler custom comp 2nds, a lot of cheap fun with zero recoil. I'm considering a 223 or 223 AI with this new barrel. I'm looking for input as to what cartridge people would go with and also a smith to complete the project who people have had good luck with. And any other tips/suggestions for this project.
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I love 22-250ai for deer but I'll never do again after having 223's and 223ai's. From now on I'll go 223 to 6mm no matter bolt face.
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I'd go with a straight 22-250. Or sell the bullets and go with a 6mm as stated above.
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I really love the .223 but the Ackley version with a fast twist turns it into an absolute monster with light and heavy bullets. Nipping at the heels of 22-250 and allowing you to see hits while cutting down on trimming, powder consumption and brass price puts it at the top of my list. It really is a little marvel that does way more than you'd think.
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I'm a big fan of the 22-250 and an 8" twist.
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Yeah, the 223AI will easily get to within 350 fps of what the standard 22-250 will do. GD
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I'm a big fan of the 22-250 and an 8" twist.
Travis That.
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I have an 8 twist 22-250 and love it as well.
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I second the 22br take a look at it.
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Since I had my 223 AI built, my 22-250 sits in the safe unless my son comes along and needs a varminter. Pretty close to the 22-250 and the accuracy, case life, powder consumption, loading ease and components, just about everything make it an easy cartridge to live with. Even fire forming brass with standard 223 loads this rifle is more accurate than just about any rifle I own.
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.223AI or easier yet the .22-204
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.223AI or easier yet the .22-204 .22-204 is easier, except when the mag length isn't there. Remingtons convert easily, others not so easy. My 8 twist Brux M-7 .22-204 will push a 75 gr. Amax around 3K fps max. My 8 twist Shilen .22-250 will push an 80 gr. VLD around 3,200 or so, burns more powder, makes more noise. Currently, I'm using the .22-250 more than the .22-204, but as a Loony, that's subject to change... DF
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How is the .223 AI or .222 Rem F a g easier than the 22-250?
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How is the .223 AI or .222 Rem F a g easier than the 22-250?
Dave It isn't. DF
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Look into the 224 Texas Trophy Hunter, a 22-6mm Rem. If you have the magazine length, shoot some 75-80 gr high BC 224s freaky fast.
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.223AI or easier yet the .22-204 .22-204 is easier, except when the mag length isn't there. Remingtons convert easily, others not so easy. My 8 twist Brux M-7 .22-204 will push a 75 gr. Amax around 3K fps max. My 8 twist Shilen .22-250 will push an 80 gr. VLD around 3,200 or so, burns more powder, makes more noise. Currently, I'm using the .22-250 more than the .22-204, but as a Loony, that's subject to change... DF DF : What mag length is required for 75 Amax in the .22-204 ? I'm fascinated with this cart , as well as the 6-04, .25-204 Thanks
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The .22-204 round is a bit long for the std. .223 mag. Remingtons have a 2.8" length box, blocked off for .223 and of course, narrower to accommodate the skinny round. I removed the block, filed (narrowed) a .308 follower to fit the .223 box. With long 75-80 gr. bullets loaded out where I want them, it works and feeds great. (fast twist M-7). With my slow twist .22-204 (yes I have two), I removed the block, JB Welded a 1/4" piece of aluminum at the rear of the box. The std. .223 follower worked. With this gun, I use shorter, lighter bullets, like 40 gr. as it's a 14 twist. Those rounds feed great. DF Slow twist .22-204 M-722/Hart Fast twist .22-204 M-7/Brux/Jewell trigger/Lone Wolf stock
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