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Dave I am getting the impression that they are getting better. I know there is a stark contrast between a Kimber Select 257 that was a lemon for me, and a recent one that so far is behaving like a normal rifle.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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For the record. Kimbers are a better than good LW. Have a good one and the better hunter/shooter wil win the race most every time. I have two and don't yet plan on letting them leave.
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laissez les bons temps rouler
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Mine has become my most accurate rifle with factory loads, as long as I start cold and keep it to 3 round groups. So far it is beating 3 Sako's for accuracy after I bedded it.
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Why do light weight Tikka's(the ones with the fluted barrels,shoot so damn good right out of the box?Also my Forbes 24 B at $1,100.00 shoots like a NULA.Most model 7`s out of the box have shot quite well for me.Yes I think at $1,100.00 a rifle should not have to be tinkered with.JMHO,Huntz
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The large majority wouldn't have to be if the tinkering occurred before they were boxed up.
Rumor had it the old Model 70 passed thru multiple inspection sign offs. Most problems were discovered before they were boxed. And my Fathers came with a 3 shot, 100yard tunnel verification target.
You no longer have a very good Smith putting it together or function testing. They fire proof loads. Just a couple minutes more down the line on QC and some extra shells. But don't hold your breath.
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I think Tikka's tweaked out the tweaks by design, so no tweaka on the Tikka.
Argue the lug? Why? It's as tight as most bedded rifles.
Argue the barrel? Why? Evidently they are lapped like a mofo.
Argue the receiver? Why? More solid design, longer tenon on the barrel and nothing sandwiched between the barrel and receiver. As in one less joint.
But hate it all because it looks different and the mag is plastic and all the other stuff said around the 'fire.
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I own several Tikkas and they do shoot but don't forget they are a full pound heavier than a Montana. Dave
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I DON'T NEED A WSM AS I HAVE A WEATHERBY!
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race car vs. daily driver.
Back in the IPSC days, a fella was always working on his schit. $3k on a custom that constantly got monkied with or $400 for a Glock that may or may not get cleaned on occasion.
Same same. Much a do about nothing. Either the tweaks or the extra pound.
I've come to the conclusion that no matter the rifle, there's somebody bitching about how it sucks and another praising it.
The only thing across the board, is the other side of the board.
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I've owned 4 Montanas and all of them shot as good as one could desire. I've also owned 8 Tikkas and they all shot as well as one could desire. But if one wanted to level the playing field in equal componentry (i.e. Remove plastic) even if one spends $600 for an edge stock, another $180 for real bottom metal and shroud , you end up with a Tikka that cost $250 more than a Montana and you still have a plastic magazine and 1/2 pound more weight. Tikkas are great out of the box rifles and in their price range they are a good buy. But looking at cost,durability and weight the Kimber outshines it in every way. All depends on what a guy wants. If your ok with all the plastic you can get two Tikkas for the price of one Montana. Good to have choices!
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Had 2 Montana's and they are bad ass, but I thought my XCRII / McSwirly was bad asser. Almost f'd up and sold it....
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race car vs. daily driver.
I've come to the conclusion that no matter the rifle, there's somebody bitching about how it sucks and another praising it.
The only thing across the board, is the other side of the board. This!
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What i don't fall for is this notion that some Kimbers don't shoot because they are too light; that may be true for some folks but I think a lot of it is that the rifles are inaccurate.
I just don't understand what's so hard about shooting a Kimber. This^^^ The newer Kimbers are consistently better. I owned and sold several about 6-8 yrs ago that shot crappy no matter what I did. Recently bought 3-4 that all were acceptable besides a 257 with a chattered chamber that Kimber found "within spec". Now I can afford to rebarrel if I like the platform which I do Very Much! Had the same chamber problem with a 257 and got the same answer.
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IIRC you forewarned me....
But as for me and my house we will serve the Lord. Joshua 24:15 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Phil. 4:13
I DON'T NEED A WSM AS I HAVE A WEATHERBY!
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I have not found a rifle comparable to a Kimber Montana.
Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Had three Kimber rifles, all went down the road. Some of the worst product service I've ever experienced came from Kimber. Rifles replaced by Browning, TIKKA and Sako A7 rifles.
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I have not found a rifle comparable to a Kimber Montana.
Dave Will disagree with you. All of my rifles will get the same results as a Montana.
Beware of thieves, scammers and dishonest members on the "Fire" classifieds. Ya there is a thief here too. Whatever!!
They're all around the CampFire and everywhere.
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If you like your Montana, you can keep your Montana.
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[quote=Kimber website]Kimber rifles are designed to be capable of shooting a 3-shot group of .99” or less at 100 yards by a highly skilled and qualified shooter using factory ammunition. "are designed to be capable of" "highly skilled and qualified shooter" No wiggle room there. Ding, ding!!!! If there ever was a statement not worth the paper {in this case tag} it was written on it is the Kimber accuracy guarantee!!!!! I have a Mountain Ascent, which is where I read the useless blob of garbage. Not saying I don't like the rifle, certainly not saying it wont do the shooting...I am not "highly skilled" and don't know if I "qualify" for anything, yet the rifle will shoot under one inch...but that wording of the guarantee...why did they even bother????
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