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I don't understand why a teacher would be so opposed to having themselves recorded in the classroom.

Teach high school much?

Look, it ain't like there aren't any checks in the classroom on teacher conduct beyond videotape. The last thing a teacher needs is complaining parents, administrators are free to conduct random walk-throughs, and kids talk about EVERYTHING, to their parents, other kids, other teachers. There are no secrets in high school, not for long.

Unlike Cops, teachers do not forcibly restrain or engage in physical combat with students as part of their job description, nor are they equipped with the means to deploy lethal force if necessary. Hence while recordings may be a good thing for people on both sides of the law in the case of Cops, they ain't the same thing in classrooms.

Let kids ordinarily sit there and record, and I can guarantee you stuff will get posted on the 'net, and 99.9% of the time anything that gets put out on public media will be either in poor judgement or expressly designed to embarrass a teacher.

Also, because you know everything you say and do can be edited and/or taken out of context, and because every class contains at least one kid with lunatic parents its pretty certain that you WILL be edited and taken out of context at some point and which you will have to take time out of your already packed day to address (12+hr days are usual even as it is) .

Also those same cell phones wont be just aimed at the teacher but WILL also be aimed at everybody else in the classroom; kids asleep and drooling on the desk, unpopular kids to ridicule later, hot girls to ogle etc...

On balance a huge disruption of the learning process.

IME,
Birdwatcher

edited in to add.... FWIW, teacher tenure worth the name to my knowledge does not exist in Texas, nowhere that I know of, if they want you out, you're gone.

If public funding is part of the equation, then that performance is under public scrutiny.

Stifled my azz.

Another veteran high school teacher, welcome!

As a typical high school teacher everything I teach and plan to teach is put out there on the 'net in print for parents to see. All the parents have my cell phone number as that is the easiest way to reach me, they are free to reach me any time, the way it works is if I am awake I will answer the phone.

Parents are welcome in the education process, we cannot succeed without them, indeed they are welcome in the classroom, "shadowing" their kid through the school day.

Besides all of that and the aforementioned lack of secrets in high school, the PA system works both ways, the office can already listen in. I suppose surveillance cameras in the classroom are inevitable, just as they are already in place in the hallways.

OK, given alla that, if you think my objections to kids on their phones filming stuff and recording anything and everyone all through class could be a problem, there ain't much more I can say

Heck, just keeping them from being on their phones 24/7 is a problem as it is.

Birdwatcher

I get the lack of enthusiasm at being filmed while at work. Alas, when taking public money, one has to face public scrutiny.
If being filmed while performing is untenable, you might seek gainful employment in the private sector.

Aye, there's the rub, I ain't actually worked for a living in 30 years

So, put a surveillance system in my room if ya want <shrug>

Meanwhile, send yer own kids to a school where all the kids are free to film everyone and everything, on their phones, all the time. Public scrutiny and all that

Recalde-Martinez posted the teacher’s rant on his Facebook page

Teach high school much?

Look, it ain't like there aren't any checks in the classroom on teacher conduct beyond videotape. The last thing a teacher needs is complaining parents, administrators are free to conduct random walk-throughs, and kids talk about EVERYTHING, to their parents, other kids, other teachers. There are no secrets in high school, not for long.

Unlike Cops, teachers do not forcibly restrain or engage in physical combat with students as part of their job description, nor are they equipped with the means to deploy lethal force if necessary. Hence while recordings may be a good thing for people on both sides of the law in the case of Cops, they ain't the same thing in classrooms.

Let kids ordinarily sit there and record, and I can guarantee you stuff will get posted on the 'net, and 99.9% of the time anything that gets put out on public media will be either in poor judgement or expressly designed to embarrass a teacher.

Also, because you know everything you say and do can be edited and/or taken out of context, and because every class contains at least one kid with lunatic parents its pretty certain that you WILL be edited and taken out of context at some point and which you will have to take time out of your already packed day to address (12+hr days are usual even as it is) .

Also those same cell phones wont be just aimed at the teacher but WILL also be aimed at everybody else in the classroom; kids asleep and drooling on the desk, unpopular kids to ridicule later, hot girls to ogle etc...

On balance a huge disruption of the learning process.

IME,
Birdwatcher

edited in to add.... FWIW, teacher tenure worth the name to my knowledge does not exist in Texas, nowhere that I know of, if they want you out, you're gone.

Aye, there's the rub, I ain't actually worked for a living in 30 years

So, put a surveillance system in my room if ya want <shrug>

Meanwhile, send yer own kids to a school where all the kids are free to film everyone and everything, on their phones, all the time. Public scrutiny and all that

Who's guarding the guards? Freedom of speech if you agree with us.


http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016...-recording-professors-anti-trump-tirade/

Teachers bitching about being filmed and recorded, reminds me of the Liberal Democrats of Late.

Bitch and complain about hacked emails, the Russians, the hacking of the emails and then the Russians, but never mention the fact that the Emails were real and the fact that these Liberal Politicians were wrong.

Just like these crying teachers, their complaint is that they were caught, not that they were wrong, so to keep from being caught again we need to pass laws and punish those that caught us.

OF course this comes as no surprise as Teachers are Liberals and think they are special.