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Could have been one in a million, but any bullet out there can and has had strange performance issues that can't be explained, with mine being one of them. It doesn't/didn't exude any confidence after the fact, so the switch was made.

I have seen the 75gr. A-Max do the same as aalf and I have seen them perform like they were perfectly engineered for big game.

That's on mule deer, pronghorn, and coyotes ranging from 50-400yds. Out of the 22-250 and the 22-250AI.



Travis

Worth trying it sounds like

I got 3300 fps from the 75 gaymax with 39 gr H4350 in a 1-8 twist 22-250ai with a 23" bbl. Same gun, but SAAMI chamber and again a 1-8 23" tube I get 3300 fps with the gaymax using 36.5gr of H4350.

I am happy to use the amax on yotes, and anything smaller. But for deer etc, I stick to the 62 ttsx. Out of my saami chamber, 35 gr Varget gets me 3500 fps and kills the hell out of things without the roll of the dice as to how it'll perform.

I couldn't get the 75 gr swift to shoot worth a damn from the ai chamber, haven't tried since I rebarrelled to the saami chamber. And for what they cost I don't imagine I'll try again unless barnes quits making the 62s.

Sticker: Any experience with the 80 Amax..on Game? I have several 1000's. They shoot very well in my match rifle

It shot a 'yote a couple of weeks ago with my 22-250 and a Hornady 68gr BTHP. Was a mild load moving them at about 3200fps. Double lunged the 'yote at about 130 yards and he ran nearly 300 yards. Exit wound was smaller than a dime. Didn't do a full autopsy but I doubt it expanded at all. Odd thing since same load a couple of months earlier on another 'yote left an exit the size of a tennis ball.





John

They didnt pop PDs anywhere close to the 75 for me. They didnt pop em at all.

Not big game, just some anectdotal info, fwiw.

Did it exit?

Nope....blew up on the shoulder.....

"MUCH prefer the 22-250AI over the SALAMI" (Stick)

Anybody that speaks "Stick"... Would You interpret what a "SALAMI" is for me.

Thanks,

Jerry

That reinforces my contention that one must match velocity with bullet design/performance ceiling.

Berger doesn't recommend impact velocity over 3,100 fps with their Hunting VLD's. The Amax isn't a VLD but not too unlike the VLD regarding terminal performance.

3,500 fps is a lot different than 3,000 fps.

IMO,

DF

I don't speak Alaskan, but think he's trying to say SAAMI or factory OEM vs. AI.

Any alternate interpretation/translation welcomed.

DF

There's more to it than that. A coyote is relatively fragile- dainty bones, thin skin, etc. Just like with antelopes and certain bullets, it was almost certainly due to "splash back". It's probably going to take quite a bit to explain, but the 75 AMAX does not splash (or I haven't seen it, nor has anyone I personally know) on deer.

I was using the 68g BTHP on game for a while; goats, foxes and such. I also found their terminal performance patchy. Some goats fell like a stone, others ran a good distance.

Switched to the 75g Hdy BTHP which was much more consistent, then eventually to the Amax when my supplier was able to divert a few from export to Alaska where some guy was buying up all known stocks...

22 Creed- hornady brass

75g A max= 46g of R#26 is 3550
75g " = H1000, 3585fps
80g A = Retumbo, 3500
80g A = H1000, 3440

75g A = 46g h4831, 3440

80.5g Berger = 43.0g H4350 super accurate, have not clocked it yet

My bbl is 26" heavy sporter

Lot numbers of powder vary, work up to these loads in your rifle. My results are very similar to what others are getting, nothing unusual.

I have had half a dozen 22/250 AI's, it is a very efficient case, extremely accurate, and is idiot proof in working up a load that will shoot bug holes. The old 65g Bergers bullets is as heavy as I have ever shot in my 12T, 37g of Win 760 shoots bug holes at 3700 fps. This load shoots HUGE holes in coyotes, near and far. The Creed may take 10g more powder...have hot tried that bullet in the only 8T, 22 creed that I have ever owned. I am a predator hunter, and shooting coyotes in half floats my boat (I will not skin another one till I kill a solid black one).

I have killed a butt load of deer with a 55g Hornady in the 22/250 AI, head shots, neck shots, lung shots...apple orchards.

I am going to play with killing hogs and deer with the 22 creed. I hope the 75 & 80g A max work, but have 62g TTSX as a back up(hope I don't have to go there). The 22 creed is within 100 fps(or less) of the 22/243 AI 8T Hart bbl, using R#22, Retumbo, H1000, and H4831.

Shot placement trumps all, animals are not hard to kill.

Not possible, just read this thread.

AALF, just wondering if your shot was quartering running away, raking shot? Looks in the pic like it may have been?

He's using a 26" barrel, not a 24" barrel.

He's not using H4350.

He's as stupid as you are and thinks it's possible that the 22CM has 10grains additional powder over a 22-250AI.



You haven't responded to my question on the difference in capacity between the 22-250AI and 250AI. Go back and look that over carefully. For just this once, step back and take an objective look as if you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

The fingers and eyes you save could be your own.

David

Seen the same with the 162 .284" amax, more than one time. Also it seems i'm the only one here that seen major BC issues with the 162 at LR, for which i was told i was full of chit.

they were so good hornady changed them..twice.

shows how much i know i guess.

The 6.5 140 amax offers the most splatter effect of them all, at creedmoor speeds no less. but I still like shooting them.


for no concessions,Pass the scenars.

Standing still, quartering towards me, 210 yards......