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one thing i wish someone would tell me how to do, but i want to make a duplex load bullet. Real hard base, soft lead front. Were a fella interested in doing it proper he would get two moulds, base and nose, and a hammer die. Thing of beauty when done and they shoot exceptionally well when patched.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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But Dan, just think of all the funky wrinkled, half filled, lopsided boolits we wouldn't get to use to throw off our alloy with when we re melt them.
the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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True that. I have guard rails.
Sometimes.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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one thing i wish someone would tell me how to do, but i want to make a duplex load bullet. Real hard base, soft lead front. Were a fella interested in doing it proper he would get two moulds, base and nose, and a hammer die. Thing of beauty when done and they shoot exceptionally well when patched. What is a "hammer die"? Ed
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Yeah, very good advice above.
My wrinkled, visually unpleasing stuff disappeared when I threw in resting the up to temp mould on a hotplate to "cool" Resting the mould on the hot plate keeps the nose section hotter for a mite bit, creating a better weld and better looking finished bullet. Yes on the two pots, but I usually dump the pure lead from the bottom pour. A bit of practice and a decent metering pot can work well.
Just shot another dink 2 weeks ago with a 50 cal./12 ga. sabot slug load
Worked like a champ. Went through the deer and several small trees. Never recovered.
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from RCE LLC. The Hammer Swage or pound die is the earliest type of die. A piece of steel has a cavity machined into it. A lead slug is placed in the die, a base punch is inserted into the die, and the punch is hit with a heavy hammer or mallet. The lead slug is “pounded” into a bullet. The die is then turned over and banged against a solid object until the bullet is jarred out of the die. A more modern approach uses an ejection punch to push the bullet out of the die. Making bullets in this manner is very slow and not especially precise.
the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Hammer dies or swages look pretty much like the image below. The big brass hammer smacks the large ram and the wee little one ejects the bullet when ready. This particular die takes a tapered round nose form and creates a flat nose .50 cal fast twist picket bullet of about 490 grains. -Hint- Be sure to put a little lube on the slug before you try turning it into a bullet or it might be a bit of a hassle removing it. The die feeds an old D. Hilliard rifle dating from the 1880s or there abouts. The image below is small, sorry about that. If you look closely at the 2d from the right you will see a 2 piece .50 cal bullet of 850 grains that was used to take the national slug gun championship back 10 years or so. You can see a bit of color change at about the 1/3 height from the base. On the left is the 'slug', on the right a finished bullet for the Hilliard rifle.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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hey Dan, i have a sinker mold that casts just that same shape! have to weigh them but id bet they are about 200g's. probably upset to 40 cal. never thought of it but would make a good squirrel boolit
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