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To be concerned about the caliber of your gun when you look at ammo prices is sort of ludicrous. You pay $300-$600 for your gun and worry about $10 bucks extra for a box of 50 rounds. Almost like the guy who buys a Truck with 4 wheel drive and the biggest V-8 he can get then complains about his gas mileage. I am not wealthy, but the last thing I look at is the price on a box of bullets. If you are CC person, one box should do. If you are a target or plinking person, buy a rimfire and get cheap bullets. Or get a Glock in 9mm for the range, and carry the 20. A Glock, of roughly the same barrel and grip length, is essentially a Glock. Get good with your 17 and you will be comfortable enough come the day you need to draw your 20, if you want a 20 for concealed carry.
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To be concerned about the caliber of your gun when you look at ammo prices is sort of ludicrous. You pay $300-$600 for your gun and worry about $10 bucks extra for a box of 50 rounds. Almost like the guy who buys a Truck with 4 wheel drive and the biggest V-8 he can get then complains about his gas mileage. I am not wealthy, but the last thing I look at is the price on a box of bullets. If you are CC person, one box should do. If you are a target or plinking person, buy a rimfire and get cheap bullets. Ridiculous! One should practice with his carry weapon.
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I think that if I do buy a Glock it would be a 10mm or 45 acp. I had a 10mm Glock, traded it off recently. When you go to stores that sell ammo, count the amount and variety of .45acp rounds on the shelves, then go look if there's any 10mm available. If there is 10mm on the shelves, take a moment to be surprised, then go compare prices Of course if you usually reload or mail-order your ammo this might not be a concern, but it was for me. Birdwatcher I found a good deal on 10mm ammo (bulk) and then bought the gun.
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To be concerned about the caliber of your gun when you look at ammo prices is sort of ludicrous. You pay $300-$600 for your gun and worry about $10 bucks extra for a box of 50 rounds. Almost like the guy who buys a Truck with 4 wheel drive and the biggest V-8 he can get then complains about his gas mileage. I am not wealthy, but the last thing I look at is the price on a box of bullets. If you are CC person, one box should do. If you are a target or plinking person, buy a rimfire and get cheap bullets. My thinking is you should run at least 500 rounds through a CC gun to make sure it's reliable enough to carry. And then comes practice. And it's not just price, it's availability. If anything positive has come out of the past 8 years its the realization you can't expect to buy a box of ammo or reloading components anytime you want.
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pal, No one would dispute that. But to be concerned about a few bucks for ammo is not ridiculous, it's ludicrous. How much is your life worth?
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Some people are so cost conscious that they keep looking at gas pump prices, trying to get the best price for a penny or two a gallon, until they run out of gas. Find the gun that suits your needs and worry about a buck or two of ammo later.
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What's the price difference in 1000 rounds of 10mm vs 1000 rounds of 9mm for practice?
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What's the price difference in 1000 rounds of 10mm vs 1000 rounds of 9mm for practice? Per Midwayusa - 1k rounds CCI Blazer 200 TMJ 10mm: $589.99 1k rounds CCI Blazer FMJ (115, 124, or 147): $239.99-244.99
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What's the price difference in 1000 rounds of 10mm vs 1000 rounds of 9mm for practice? About 100 bucks. But if you want to train with what you shoot it gets very expensive very quick. And if a guy runs a box of 20 XTP's or whatever through his carry gun, and thinks it's good to go, he's making a big mistake. And not to beat up on the 10mm, but there is a very good chance that guys are shooting overpriced 40's in their 10mm if they are buying factory ammo. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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There's a reason I wouldn't want to be a 'thing' with the Bumblebee in my hands.
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I was being a smart azz with the question. Point was to shoot more for less cost. I was thinking it would be a 2 to 1 cost difference.
Yes, 10mm is just a hair more on pop but a fair bit more on $. I probably run 50 .40's through my 10mm's for every 10mm round.
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What's the price difference in 1000 rounds of 10mm vs 1000 rounds of 9mm for practice? About 100 bucks. But if you want to train with what you shoot it gets very expensive very quick. And if a guy runs a box of 20 XTP's or whatever through his carry gun, and thinks it's good to go, he's making a big mistake. And not to beat up on the 10mm, but there is a very good chance that guys are shooting overpriced 40's in their 10mm if they are buying factory ammo. Dave bingo, when i first got my glock i got in two boxes of remington factory which was running at same speed as .40s&w. I reload so that was rectified. as to a glock and 10mm, one could for what, about 150bucks by a 40 barrel which would work perfectly fine in it? I stuck my baby glock back in the fanny pack, it's labeled .357sig on the side of the frame. Today it's a .40s&w, somedays its a 9mm. Not a difficult thing. the orignal gun comes with something like 8 or nine rounds. I have 13rounders with it.
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I got that 10mm Glock 29 for two reasons: One was the sheer fun quotient at the range of that many cumulative ft pounds in that size gun (Buffalo Bore 200gr solids was my carry ammo ). The other reason was that one wet spring I got tired of walking right up on feral hogs in tall thick weeds while doing bird surveys, including sows nursing piglets, and especially that one time a really big boar hog was standing maybe 20 yards out and huffing at me despite my yelling and waving. (Hey, some guys worry about snakes, I get to worry about feral hogs). So I wanted something concealable that would best knock down inbound hogs. Then this past fall I needed really good binocs, and Swift Audubon 8.4x44 porros at $500 are the cheapest way to get there. So goodbye Glock. I was getting frustrated with it anyway, ammo was scarce and like a dollar a round when I did find it, especially the 200 grain solids I was wanting to practice with. I got no quarrel with the 10, and more power to those who favor it. But I'm pretty sure the various 9mm loads can meet my needs, even w/hogs. Criminals in the desert ain't likely around here, and even if they were, I'd be far from helpless with a 9. Just recently the local Academy was having a sale; 50 rounds of 147g 9mm ball at $12 for 50. If I was buying 20 boxes (if they would sell me that many) that works out to 1K rounds for $240, over the counter. IME, Birdwatcher
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19 below zero forecast for Thursday am. Try oiling your semi auto and leaving it outside overnight in your vehicle. I am betting it will be sluggish. The main reason I prefer revolver, although looking in a snowbank for 9mm brass would not be high on my list for having a good time. whelennut Try bringing your pistol inside where you spend the night and it's less likely to be stolen. It's not like you live in a no crime area. Why the Hell you would be looking in a snowbank for 9mm brass in/after a defensive situation also makes no sense. Why in the hell would you dig in a snowbank for 9mm brass any time?
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To be concerned about the caliber of your gun when you look at ammo prices is sort of ludicrous. You pay $300-$600 for your gun and worry about $10 bucks extra for a box of 50 rounds. Almost like the guy who buys a Truck with 4 wheel drive and the biggest V-8 he can get then complains about his gas mileage. I am not wealthy, but the last thing I look at is the price on a box of bullets. If you are CC person, one box should do. If you are a target or plinking person, buy a rimfire and get cheap bullets. How many rounds do you fire in a year?
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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Is 5 shots enough against three attackers? That depends on you. How good are you with your gun in stressful, dynamic situations involving moving people? What kind of shape are you in? How good are you in unarmed defense against multiple opponents? How fast do you run? This part is the important part: Mattisism -- “be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet" --
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19 below zero forecast for Thursday am. Try oiling your semi auto and leaving it outside overnight in your vehicle. I am betting it will be sluggish. The main reason I prefer revolver, although looking in a snowbank for 9mm brass would not be high on my list for having a good time. whelennut Are you saying that oil on a revolver is not affected by temperature?
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Remlube. Worked on my autos when I lived in ND. I used it on the Glock, Berretta A390 and BAR. No worries.
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Remlube. Worked on my autos when I lived in ND. I used it on the Glock, Berretta A390 and BAR. No worries. This.^
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I had a chance to speak with the gentleman who was beaten by three men. He was a veteran of the US Army and spent 20 years in the National Guard. He told me that he was approached by a man who asked him for a cigarette while he was walking his dog at 0600 hrs.
He remembers nothing that happened afterwards. He crawled home on the brink of death.
In my opinion situational awareness would have been a more important tool than any kind of handgun. YMMV whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
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