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Agreed. I probably got side-tracked by the Creed and "poor man's .270" comment...but there are so many suggestions being thrown around here when people don't even know why the OP wants to change.
He said he wanted to turn his rifle into a 7mm Rem Mag...which would require a rebarrel...which he doesn't want to do.
Someone suggested a rechamber to the .270Wby and the OP seemed giddy at the thought.
That tells me that the OP just wants an increase in horsepower. Why? Who knows...he didn't say...but if he wants an increase in HP, why suggest assorted chamberings that require a different barrel when that is the ONE thing we know the OP doesn't want?
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I wouldn't go to the trouble of opening it up for any magnum head size cartridge.
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trade the 270 for a 7 mag and save yourself a lot of money and trouble
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Hard to believe this forum would even consider suggesting that a member should not build any rifle "just because". I'm starting to think this forum has lost it's rifle loony status and the long winter is turning everyone into closet knitting club members.....
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Keep that rifle, buy a 7 mag. You need at least 20 deer rifles. Anyone agree??
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Nah, 19 are plenty. 
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Agreed. I probably got side-tracked by the Creed and "poor man's .270" comment...but there are so many suggestions being thrown around here when people don't even know why the OP wants to change.
He said he wanted to turn his rifle into a 7mm Rem Mag...which would require a rebarrel...which he doesn't want to do.
Someone suggested a rechamber to the .270Wby and the OP seemed giddy at the thought.
That tells me that the OP just wants an increase in horsepower. Why? Who knows...he didn't say...but if he wants an increase in HP, why suggest assorted chamberings that require a different barrel when that is the ONE thing we know the OP doesn't want? My response was because of a barrel and boltface change. Simpler to buy a 7mm Rem mag. But then again its not my money.
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My response was because of a barrel and boltface change. Simpler to buy a 7mm Rem mag. But then again its not my money. I hear ya...that was one of the suggestions in my first reply on this thread: I'll echo the sentiments of some of the other guys here...you can open up the bolt face of your current action if you want...I wouldn't rebore and can't think of many companies that would rebore such a small difference in calibers. Rechamber to .270 Weatherby or rebarrel. Another option though... you could probably go on Gunbroker and find a complete M700 in 7mm Rem Mag for less than the cost of all the smith work to change your current action over. It was one of the MOST common chamberings a few decades ago so there's a bunch of them out there. Not uncommon to see them for less than $400 (sometimes way less).
True rifle loonies don't rebuild...they add to the collection. If I had the option to invest a bunch of money in smith costs to achieve a result that was already available...and abundantly available for about the same amount I am about to spend...then I am going to buy the already available and complete product. As a lefty, I don't usually have this option though. And as you state, not my money and who are we to justify a loony's actions? 
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It would be much faster, less expensive and endure less risk to sell that existing barreled rifle as it is and buy another rifle the way you want it! Absolutely, this is the best and least cost path for you
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...but there are so many suggestions being thrown around here when people don't even know why the OP wants to change.
What good is knowing when it would spoil all their fun... 
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yes 280 AI, its pretty pepppy, awesome bullet selection. no bolt change. and no dinking with the belt when you reload cases.
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trade the 270 for a 7 mag and save yourself a lot of money and trouble This. We're talking about two very common chamberings, so it should be a short search.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
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A .270 is just as good as a 7mm Mag.... Depends on the bullet, and of course, you knew that. 145 ELD-X @ 3,000 might be something.
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It'll never be a 175 ELD-X at 3000.... but all the .270 guys will claim "it's the same"...
You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
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It'll never be a 175 ELD-X at 3000.... but all the .270 guys will claim "it's the same"... Not this one.... I've hunted with nothing but a 270 or a 7 Rem Mag, for years,loaded and shot rounds by the thousands from each. Im a 270 fan but anybody who thinks it equals a 7 Rem Mag is not out there shooting a lot or os manipulating data.. OTOH anyone who thinks a 270 is a punk western BG cartridge just has little experience with it....
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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.563 vs .613 blah, blah, blah. OP hasn't mentioned one bullet. 7 Mag is always better than a 270. Always. Has to be. Especially because the pro's can read gnat farts at 500 yards and 3.1 MOA is harder to hold than 2.6 MOA, @ FV. Numbers on paper, this is 2017 version of the same 2016, 2015, 2014.
Yadda, yadda, yadda.
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That'd be a .54 vs .66.... (.277 145 ELD-X vs .284 175 ELD-X)... at equal velocity...
But you knew that already....
That's giving up 20%.... I guess if 20% is no big deal.... you can send me 20% of your next paycheck....
You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
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Yet to see anyone pushing 175's at 3K, but I'm sure you're all over it. Just keep cutting and pasting.
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That'd be a .54 vs .66.... (.277 145 ELD-X vs .284 175 ELD-X)... at equal velocity...
But you knew that already....
That's giving up 20%.... I guess if 20% is no big deal.... you can send me 20% of your next paycheck....
I will...... if it means the 270 is shorter, lighter,and handier in oak brush jungles, or north slope timber where big mature mule deer bucks live; and a 24-26" barreled 7 mag is clearly superfluous and sort of a PITA. Not that I never carried them mind you,and they worked. Bit truth is the BIGGEST mule deer I encountered out west were killed under 300 yards, is broken or heavy cover. But as you can see I'm a fan of both. Here's a couple of victims of 22" barreled 270's that I "managed to hit" in mixed cover. (One guided although I was alone;and the other unguided....). They died about as well as those hit equally with the 7 mag,although I think the 7 mag shows better, in general, at distance. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z395/BobinNH1/20150629_145242.jpg)
Last edited by BobinNH; 01/23/17.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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