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Reagan was the governor when this dam was finished. Thanks, Syc,....I'll remember to cast an evil glance at his signed pic on my wall when I walk past this evening, ....azzwhole GTC Oroville Dam contract was actually let with the main construction occurring during the reign of the super left wing Democrat, Governor Pat Brown. Although the dam was completed in 1968 while Reagan was governor, he had nothing to do with the construction or contracts. Calif. is a total cesspool of corrupt officials, top to bottom, and most are Democrats. It was then and is now. Let's not forget that the present governor is Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown, the extreme left wing liberal son of former Gov. Pat Brown. Peas in a pod. FWIW. L.W.
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Agreed. Wishing a catastrophe on ANY US population is childish, in bad taste, and shows one's true colors. But beyond that, Deerwhacker's comments shows extreme ignorance.
I was born and raised 30 minutes north in Chico, Ca. Let me tell you what's in the path of a potential flood:
- Some of the richest almond and walnut orchards in the country.
- Some of the most prolific rice fields in the country
- Destruction of Feather River corridor, rich in wildlife and diversity
- Damage to many Northern Sacramento Valley communities (many of those, conservative areas)
- Some of the premier waterfowl stopover habitat in the Pacific flyway, and at least a half dozen critical National Wildlife Refuges plus some of the last decent pheasant habitat in the state
- Loss of property and human life
Quite a few classless replies on this post. Some of 24HCF's bottom feeders are in full force tonight...
+1 I agree, it's not the peoples fault, I blame the bloated inefficient government, as usual the people will suffer and they don't deserve it.
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PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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My daughter is evacuating. She just called wanting advice.
I am worried. Tell her ain't nothing physical worth dying for and get on the road to high ground, stat! I just got a PM from another "fire" member offering a place for her to stay. Unbelievably nice of him. She was already on a freeway headed to a friends house that is safe.
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Need to study your geography. That area is Californias heartland. The liberals are in San Francisco and Los Angeles and will likely not have any effect. Geography and political studies for all... No liberals in Sacramento? Seriously? You got me, count Excremento in as a lberal chit hole. It is a lot different further north and up river.
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There are a lot of innocents who are going to have their lives turned upside down. I hate that Americans are being put through this. My retired Platoon Sergeant and dear friend is in the path of this. He suffered a catastrophic car accident that shattered his hip and broke his shoulder and knee cap just before Christmas. He is the toughest 68 year old I know but he is still just hobbling around. I just got through to him and he is packing up his house and going to Beale AFB until further. I offered to go get him and his wife (and dogs, Moose and Bear) until it's over, but he is too proud to accept help. The area affected by this does not have any liberals. Only farmers and tweakers. The liberals in the cities sneer at these "country folk" and curse them for living where tax dollars might go to somebody not as "cool" as themselves. There are a lot of homeless along the Sacramento river that are going to be washed away tonight.
Me solum relinquatis
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RCBS address sounds like they are right in the middle of this
RCBS
605 Oro Dam Boulevard East
Oroville, CA 95965 2 1/4 miles downstream ![[Linked Image]](http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/skkkpictures/31d40c32-dd11-4a82-892f-0874dec8bb72_zpsjjvk4r3k.jpg)
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Well in this case the further it flows the lefter it gets. Truly some non-sense posted here tonight. The good the bad and the ugly.
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Update (8:30 p.m. PST): Officials are moving construction equipment into position in preparation for a daring operation to plug the hole in the emergency spillway by using rocks, which are to be dropped from helicopters.
Meanwhile, there are unconfirmed reports of looting in the largely-empty town of Oroville.
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If Pelosi, Boxer, the Browns, and Feinstein were all stuffed into the hole, all the people of Cali would be saved from a lot more harm.
It may not help the flooding, but the aftermath will be a LOT better.
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the difference here is the Teton Dam failed from within the actual fill/ There was seepage along one abutment, saturation of the fill, and the ds face of the dam gave way.
Oroville Dam has an auxiliary spillway problem. I have read worst case scenario (which is pretty bad) thirty feet deep breach may form to bedrock. losing 30 feet of water off the top of that reservoir is going to be a lot of water downstream.
Nothing like losing the 700 feet of the main embankment.
Sycamore The cutting potential of water is amazing...
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If Pelosi, Boxer, the Browns, and Feinstein were all stuffed into the hole, all the people of Cali would be saved from a lot more harm.
It may not help the flooding, but the aftermath will be a LOT better. . Best plan yet ...as dense as they are....
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roger that.
shear stress from water in an open channel is a function of the depth and the velocity. should be plenty of both. good news is the aux spillway is off to one side, so there is bedrock down only 30 feet.
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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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[quote=MtnBoomer]Update (8:30 p.m. PST): Officials are moving construction equipment into position in preparation for a daring operation to plug the hole in the emergency spillway by using rocks, which are to be dropped from helicopters.
Rocks from a chopper ????? Wtf ...a little math would tell that ain't going to work !!!! Good lord.....
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Water flowing at 7 mph has the equivalent force per unit area as air blowing at EF5 tornado wind ....Water moving at 25 mph has the pressure equivalent of wind blowing at 790 mph, faster than the speed of sound....(weather channel)
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[quote=MtnBoomer]Update (8:30 p.m. PST): Officials are moving construction equipment into position in preparation for a daring operation to plug the hole in the emergency spillway by using rocks, which are to be dropped from helicopters.
Rocks from a chopper ????? Wtf ...a little math would tell that ain't going to work !!!! Good lord..... Maybe they can drop a few loads of those solar reflecting "spheres" to plug the holes.... 
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[quote=MtnBoomer]Update (8:30 p.m. PST): Officials are moving construction equipment into position in preparation for a daring operation to plug the hole in the emergency spillway by using rocks, which are to be dropped from helicopters.
Rocks from a chopper ????? Wtf ...a little math would tell that ain't going to work !!!! Good lord..... When those rocks roll into homes 30 miles downstream there will be repercussions...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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[quote=MtnBoomer]Update (8:30 p.m. PST): Officials are moving construction equipment into position in preparation for a daring operation to plug the hole in the emergency spillway by using rocks, which are to be dropped from helicopters.
Rocks from a chopper ????? Wtf ...a little math would tell that ain't going to work !!!! Good lord..... Big heavy skycranes are used a lot, in setting Gabien baskets at difficult to access locales.REAL common further south in the mudslide after wildfire belt. Given the counter rotor resonance they are KNOWN to set up in semi elastic formations below, I'm surprised they're considering their use as an option. ....when all you've got is a hammer,.... GTC
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My brother was on a crew that dumped loads of rocks into the cowlitz river during the 07 flood at the bridge to try and save it. These were two rocks per dump truck. They backed up to the rail dumped them and they could hear the rocks rolling down river. They better bring some big rocks.
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[quote=MtnBoomer]Update (8:30 p.m. PST): Officials are moving construction equipment into position in preparation for a daring operation to plug the hole in the emergency spillway by using rocks, which are to be dropped from helicopters.
Rocks from a chopper ????? Wtf ...a little math would tell that ain't going to work !!!! Good lord..... Maybe they can drop a few loads of those solar reflecting "spheres" to plug the holes.... New meaning to Clean Energy.
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roger that.
shear stress from water in an open channel is a function of the depth and the velocity. should be plenty of both. good news is the aux spillway is off to one side, so there is bedrock down only 30 feet.
Sycamore Why do you say "bedrock down 30 feet?" Undermining of the auxiliary spillway was why they have increased the main spillway flow to over 100,000 CFS attempting to lower water levels below the auxiliary.
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