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Actually, this is a clusterfugg caused by man...the main spillway has been damaged for a while and DWR people were well aware of it....there was never any danger of the dam nor the main spillway failing....BUT the high flows into the lake AND the damage to the lower section of the main spillway, gave them an opportunity and EXCUSE to TEST the auxiliary (EMERGENCY) spillway... I saw the damaged spillway on TV. Given its location (close to the dam itself), the depth of the hole and, the velocity of the water, I think the dam could possibly collapse due to scowering of the rest of the spillway up to the dam supports. I do think the evacuation is a prudent move, give the catastrophe that will result if it collapses. Can't happen....it rests on bedrock. and the damaged part of the spillway is a LONG ways away from not only the Dam, but the spillway gates themselves.
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That pic is of another damned dam. LOL Dammm that's a hole! THANKS RNOVI sorry for the dumphucqktitudeness. MB Ah, so this picture makes more sense to me. The main spillway had damage. The emergency spillway then cut into the main spillway exacerbating the damage. That's bad...really bad. ![[Linked Image]](http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j288/rnovielli/Screen%20Shot%202017-02-13%20at%208.19.53%20AM_zpsrmlpyqiv.png) The California Department of Water Resources stopped the spillway flow on Thursday morning to allow engineers to evaluate the integrity of the structure after water had been released at 20,000 cubic feet per second through the night. (Courtesy of the California Department of Water Resources).
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MB,.....THANKS for putting up all the good diagrams and photos !
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Ah, so this picture makes more sense to me. The main spillway had damage. The emergency spillway then cut into the main spillway exacerbating the damage. That's bad...really bad. The California Department of Water Resources stopped the spillway flow on Thursday morning to allow engineers to evaluate the integrity of the structure after water had been released at 20,000 cubic feet per second through the night. (Courtesy of the California Department of Water Resources). No, the emergency spillway is routed through a ravine quite a ways away from the main spillway...
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Can't happen....it rests on bedrock. and the damaged part of the spillway is a LONG ways away from not only the Dam, but the spillway gates themselves. If the quality of the "grout curtain" along said bedrock is anywhere's near as poor as the concrete work on that spillway, your faith in the integrity of the whole show may be a wee bit misplaced. GTC
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I haven't read the whole thread, but when it's man against nature, nature will always win, in the long run.
As anyone from Louisiana knows, water is one the most destructive forces in nature. As long as you can keep the flow rate down, it's just nasty. When the flow rate goes up, it get destructive, very fast. With the amount of flow they had, its a wonder it didn't do more damage.
Given the extraordinary volumes expected, what's the current perspective on the Mississippi's readiness to handle the Spring Thaw ? It's anyone guess. First they will open the gates at Simsport and let more water down the Atchafalaya. Then the Bonnet Carrie Spillway will be opened. This is above NO, on the river and lets fresh water into Lake Pontchatrain. Oyster fishermen hate this. Keeps NO from flooding, unless it gets really bad. Last, if needed, they will open the gates at Morganza and flood the Atchafalaya Basin. This has only happened 2 times. After these 3 things, you are 'out of luck'. One of these days, those things will not be enough and when it happens, 1/4 of La. will flood. It happened in '27, before the present levee system was finished. My Granddad told me about it.
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Wonder why dumbF%^k jim cantori from the weather channel isn't standing in the center of it yelling and flailing his arms, in horrible danger of his life too tell people!!! fugging shaved head P O S
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Hopin things work out ok for folks in that area
Ma nature, like most women doesn't always respond well to being manipulated
Good luck, maybe with a bit of that they can get some repairs made
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The dam isn't leaking...it isn't that I have "faith in the integrity of the whole show", because this pic shows they were well aware of the damage a LONG time ago...the thing is, this was caused by the operators of the dam...they never needed to slow the releases from the main spillway...they chose instead to let the lake rise to the EMERGENCY spillway and it probably over stressed its design capabilities....notice how quickly they've lowered the level??? ![[Linked Image]](http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp11/tomt1951/16603106_1430464147025350_2457779832584044709_n_zpsqvjtfy1f.jpg)
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MB,.....THANKS for putting up all the good diagrams and photos !
GTC You're welcome. Have not found any info on the work that was reported being done last night, dropping stones from the air. Hopefully they kept it carbon neutral. 
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That pic is of another damned dam. LOL Ah, so this picture makes more sense to me. The main spillway had damage. The emergency spillway then cut into the main spillway exacerbating the damage. That's bad...really bad. The California Department of Water Resources stopped the spillway flow on Thursday morning to allow engineers to evaluate the integrity of the structure after water had been released at 20,000 cubic feet per second through the night. (Courtesy of the California Department of Water Resources). Actually, that's the current damage to the Oroville Spillway. http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/12/us/california-oroville-dam-failure/index.htmlScroll down about halfway on the Cartoon News Network...it shows the comparison pix.
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Holey hell dammm Sorry man! Chit - that looks badder! That pic is of another damned dam. LOL Ah, so this picture makes more sense to me. The main spillway had damage. The emergency spillway then cut into the main spillway exacerbating the damage. That's bad...really bad. The California Department of Water Resources stopped the spillway flow on Thursday morning to allow engineers to evaluate the integrity of the structure after water had been released at 20,000 cubic feet per second through the night. (Courtesy of the California Department of Water Resources). Actually, that's the current damage to the Oroville Spillway. http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/12/us/california-oroville-dam-failure/index.htmlScroll down about halfway on the Cartoon News Network...it shows the comparison pix.
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They better get Peelosi, Maxine Waters and Feinstein out there to start filling sandbags. They better fill the sandbags with them. It would be so fitting and the only thing they are good for.
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I think the dam could possibly collapse due to scowering of the rest of the spillway up to the dam supports.
There should be no SCOWS anywhere near either spillway. ![[Linked Image]](http://i64.tinypic.com/iz5lcw.jpg)
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That was some major h20 overflowing this past night or 2. How can the entire underside not be compromised now?? I'm surprised the whole slab didn't go.
Bet they have to darn near rebuild the whole thing.
No doubt it will be blamed on Trump!!
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They better get Peelosi, Maxine Waters and Feinstein out there to start filling sandbags. They better fill the sandbags with them. It would be so fitting and the only thing they are good for. I thought CA was a very "environmentally conscious" state? There is probably an agency that would have a problem with folks throwing chit like that in the water.....
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The dam isn't leaking...it isn't that I have "faith in the integrity of the whole show", because this pic shows they were well aware of the damage a LONG time ago...the thing is, this was caused by the operators of the dam...they never needed to slow the releases from the main spillway...they chose instead to let the lake rise to the EMERGENCY spillway and it probably over stressed its design capabilities....notice how quickly they've lowered the level??? I think you're really confused about what's actually going on, mate. GTC
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...not sayin I ain't, either.
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